GazzaL wrote: » If we continue down the path of economic destruction, people can probably forget about €200 per week too. We might match the UKs equivalent of €83.50 per week.
easypazz wrote: » It is new cases and ICU beds that matters. The active cases number is irrelevant.
ELM327 wrote: » Perhaps we should tell that to Mr Rona? This is perhaps also why I'm not as affected by this as others. I hate people, socialise with friends on an odd occasion but mostly online. I work in finance on the risk data analytics side, so can work from home (same as before rona, we had the option anyway) with no impact. My team is global, recently hired people in Singapore.
GazzaL wrote: » The ICU capacity is important. R0 is important.
thegetawaycar wrote: » Or the ECB print money and give it to the euro member countries (I understand this devalues the currency) to use as part of welfare support, that won't last forever but it will mean that there is money to be spent in the economy when restrictions are lifted. The problem I see is lots of small chains and sole traders closing but as there is cash to be spent they will be replaced by generic places that can afford it or can pay large capital to alter how they work/the work space itself. If the Euro is worth less it encourages more buying domestically as imports are more expensive, this is good for jobs here, manufacturing here and the environment.
Tenzor07 wrote: » This mantra we're told of "flattening the curve" flattening the curve doesn't mean that cases disappear -- they are just moved in time.
BillyBiggs wrote: » Dr. Leo softening us up for more lockdownhttps://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0429/1135508-restrictions-work/
GazzaL wrote: » I've been getting emails from companies this morning saying they're planning on re-opening on Tuesday.
alwald wrote: » Yep they are important hence why most restrictions won't be lifted soon as we need to lower them further.
Multipass wrote: » And if they do survive it will be by laying off all of their staff. The people sitting at home on 350 right now should think about a future on 200 per week.
BillyBiggs wrote: » Fat chance of that now I’d say. The Irish economy will be in tatters.
timmy_mallet wrote: » Printing money at this level to give to people to spend will create massive inflation. Simple as that.
road_high wrote: » Or less. And many should be planning for that too. Lots of them online, have to say predominantly women, with the “foreva lockdown” / saving lives line. I genuinely think there’s a massive proportion of people believe the €350 will be around forever too, so long as “dis virus is out dere”- the government aren’t being honest at all on this front with either its duration or the price to be paid soon after. Not more nonsense from the Taoiseach on Friday night- real figures
Ronaldinho wrote: » Hor$e****. Polls show that people would use any handouts to buy essentials and to pay down debt. Look at how depressed HICP remained over the past 5+ years, with ample consumer credit available and a tight labour market.
GazzaL wrote: » De Facebuke luvvies. They are away with the fairies.
easypazz wrote: » Yes but that will not be the case for everybody. A lot of people won't go near a doctor or hospital at the moment due to the virus and a serious illness will be missed. Also people sometimes go to doctor / hospital for something small and then a bigger issue is discovered. This is not happening at the moment. It has been acknowledged in the department of health that people are afraid to go to doctors and hospitals and that this is a problem.
GazzaL wrote: » R0 has been in the target zone for weeks and steadily decreasing. We never hit full ICU capacity, and both ICU occupancy and hospital admissions have been declining for weeks. They are where they need to be. Unless you're telling me they've lied about our R0 and ICU figures?
Down9194 wrote: » Like I said previously FG don't care as they won't be around to clean up the mess
is_that_so wrote: » They actually will, for as long as the next government lasts.
road_high wrote: » There’s no one else queuing up to do the hard work. I blast FG here at times but what is else is in the Dáil are absolute cabbages
Theboinkmaster wrote: » yes I agree a lot of companies are just opening up anyway - which I agree with.