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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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Continuation of the "Relaxation of restrictions" from here.

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easypazz

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Confirmation this morning that the restrictions will not be lifted or eased from May 5th.

https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1255421347611791360

You are quoting a hack.

Link to official statement from Leo please.

Hooked

GazzaL wrote: »

We should ease restrictions and allow people to achieve a certain level of normality.

We'll all be dead before the HSE sorts itself out. We need to use social distancing, we need to use hand sanitiser or wash our hands regularly, we need to manage the movement of people, simple stuff that was all being implemented prior to the lockdown. A lot of businesses are ready to adapt, they've been working on this for weeks.

THIS... /\

We need to adopt a "lockdown" frame of mind... and start getting back to normal... `We've played our part for the last 6-8 weeks. Time for Leo, Simon and Tony to play theirs. Get the testing and other stuff sorted FFS. Give us a plan!!!

Get us moving. In our family units. While still adhering to social distancing etc...

Because a LOT of healthy, non smoking, young & SENSIBLE people would rather take their chances with Covid-19, than live like this!

Banana Republic.

GazzaL wrote: »

There's nothing immature about it. We've hit out targets. The HSE haven't hit theirs. We're watching restrictions eased around Europe while we're being told how naughty we are, trying to deflect from the HSE's failure. People can't see their families and friends, they're losing their jobs and businesses because the HSE are a complete and utter shambles.

I don’t agree with the tone of your post but it’s not my language to use but your overall point I completely agree the HSE last night in the briefing were pulled on their waffle, the evidence is there in every single scandal of late and the HSE is as useful as a wet bag in holding chips. Allot of the measures can’t be lifted because it’ll show the HSE up for their failures. Restrictions were needed and we’ve done a hell of a job but HSE haven’t held up their side of the deal and they’re the professionals ( supposedly, don’t quote me on that)

LiquidZeb

stephenjmcd wrote: »

It's a self made recession for want of a better way to put it. Lockdown measures are what stopped the economy in its tracks, longer they go on the worse it gets. Tanking economy = less money for health services

You can try explaining that to people but they'll just give the old cliche 'lives matter more than the economy' neglecting to elaborate what's going to pay all the social welfare and keep the health services afloat.

Sierra Oscar

Confirmation this morning that the restrictions will not be lifted or eased from May 5th.

https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1255421347611791360

boring accountant

stephenjmcd wrote: »

It's a self made recession for want of a better way to put it. Lockdown measures are what stopped the economy in its tracks, longer they go on the worse it gets. Tanking economy = less money for health services

We have already set the equivalent of 7 brand new children’s hospitals on fire and we’re only a month in.

uli84

munsterlegend wrote: »

I suppose the whole plan is to limit numbers with Covid as much as possible so as our health service isn’t overrun. Social distancing helps as numbers have indicated. How is Denmark doing since it reopened schools?

No difference to what it was really by the looks of it

stephenjmcd

boring accountant wrote: »

There will be a global recession. Sweden is projection to contract by 4%. Countries like Ireland and america where lockdowns have been more stringent the projections are closer to 20-30%. JPM is projecting the US economy will contract by 40% annualised this quarter. Virtually all of the decline is attributable to the lockdown measures and not the virus itself.

It's a self made recession for want of a better way to put it. Lockdown measures are what stopped the economy in its tracks, longer they go on the worse it gets. Tanking economy = less money for health services

GazzaL

Penfailed wrote: »

Your comment read like a spoilt child not getting his way. The reason for restrictions easing around Europe are due to the fact that they are further down the road than we are. They've had harsher restrictions than we had in the first place. Spanish kids got to go OUTSIDE for the first time in six weeks at the weekend. They also have better equipped health services to cope. You said it yourself, the HSE is a shambles. Does that mean we should ignore restrictions out of spite and let it be overrun?

We should ease restrictions and allow people to achieve a certain level of normality. We'll all be dead before the HSE sorts itself out. We need to use social distancing, we need to use hand sanitiser or wash our hands regularly, we need to manage the movement of people, simple stuff that was all being implemented prior to the lockdown. A lot of businesses are ready to adapt, they've been working on this for weeks.

Gael23

Cocooning first the foreseeable future is not going to work

munsterlegend

boring accountant wrote: »

There will be a global recession. Sweden is projection to contract by 4%. Countries like Ireland and america where lockdowns have been more stringent the projections are closer to 20-30%. JPM is projecting the US economy will contract by 40% annualised this quarter. Virtually all of the decline is attributable to the lockdown measures and not the virus itself.

You can’t close down economic activity and not have a recession of sorts! Consumer confidence is/will be majorly affected.

Tourism in Ireland this year is effectively decimated. Sad to see.

boring accountant

Penfailed wrote: »

I'll say it. There will be a global recession.

There will be a global recession. Sweden is projection to contract by 4%. Countries like Ireland and america where lockdowns have been more stringent the projections are closer to 20-30%. JPM is projecting the US economy will contract by 40% annualised this quarter. Virtually all of the decline is attributable to the lockdown measures and not the virus itself.

munsterlegend

uli84 wrote: »

Well i have family in France and there is not much difference, the whole social distancing is a nonsense anyway, whoever is meant to catch the virus will catch it social distancing or not, especially in school setting

I suppose the whole plan is to limit numbers with Covid as much as possible so as our health service isn’t overrun. Social distancing helps as numbers have indicated. How is Denmark doing since it reopened schools?

ixoy

So France has issued its plans (can be seen on BBC News for one) and it includes proper targets, ways to mitigate against transmission (masks) and strategies for rolling back. That's the sort of framework that I'd be much happier to see announced.

uli84

I still don’t get it who they want to be testing? Healthy people?

stephenjmcd

Government was told yesterday that the department of social protection and department of business are both out of budget in June, the whole budget for the year gone. Now I'm sure some people on here will say they can just borrow, yes they can borrow but they cant borrow indefinitely, we've already borrowed and its unsustainable going forward.
Given the minister for finance was yesterday urging for more business to be allowed to reopen there is now quite clearly a point where dept of finance says economy must be allowed to reopen. Minster for finances press conference was pretty bleak I just get the feeling its alot more bleaker than he said at the time.

It mirrors what the frence prime minister said yesterday, they were starting to relax restrictions to get back to some normality in order to save the economy from ruin

Penfailed

GazzaL wrote: »

There's nothing immature about it. We've hit out targets. The HSE haven't hit theirs. We're watching restrictions eased around Europe while we're being told how naughty we are, trying to deflect from the HSE's failure. People can't see their families and friends, they're losing their jobs and businesses because the HSE are a complete and utter shambles.

Your comment read like a spoilt child not getting his way. The reason for restrictions easing around Europe are due to the fact that they are further down the road than we are. They've had harsher restrictions than we had in the first place. Spanish kids got to go OUTSIDE for the first time in six weeks at the weekend. They also have better equipped health services to cope. You said it yourself, the HSE is a shambles. Does that mean we should ignore restrictions out of spite and let it be overrun?

Gael23

What’s the current rate of testing?

Cantona's Collars

doylefe wrote: »

Planning on driving from north west to south some time after the 5th. What's the best day of the week / time of day to avoid the Gestapo?

Easy, leave the car in the driveway and stay at home.

Penfailed

doylefe wrote: »

Planning on driving from north west to south some time after the 5th. What's the best day of the week / time of day to avoid the Gestapo?

Wait and see what the announcement is. If it's an essential journey, there won't be an issue anyway. If it's not an essential journey, why would you bother?

Spencer Brown

pjohnson wrote: »

And you guys pretend to care about mental health :pac:

You dont keep up the act well.

Can you teach us your ways master? It's quite impressive that you can sustain being a monumental bellend day after day.

uli84

munsterlegend wrote: »

Our schools and class sizes is a major issue. Can’t maintain social distancing it seems. I thought primary school would be opened before end of June but now I am not so sure.

Well i have family in France and there is not much difference, the whole social distancing is a nonsense anyway, whoever is meant to catch the virus will catch it social distancing or not, especially in school setting

GazzaL

Penfailed wrote: »

That's a really really immature statement.

There's nothing immature about it. We've hit out targets. The HSE haven't hit theirs. We're watching restrictions eased around Europe while we're being told how naughty we are, trying to deflect from the HSE's failure. People can't see their families and friends, they're losing their jobs and businesses because the HSE are a complete and utter shambles.

Penfailed

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Don't be so sure.... Read a lot of the comments on social media...

I'm talking about on here. I haven't seen anyone on Boards calling for martial law.

bloodless_coup

Planning on driving from north west to south some time after the 5th. What's the best day of the week / time of day to avoid the Gestapo?

robbiezero

pjohnson wrote: »

And you guys pretend to care about mental health :pac:

You dont keep up the act well.

No idea what you are on about. An odd constructive post among the many negative, sneering ones wouldn't do you any harm. Try it.

munsterlegend

uli84 wrote: »

So France is re-opening schools from 11th of May, wait, let me look at their “numbers” since ours do not seem to be good enough...

Our schools and class sizes is a major issue. Can’t maintain social distancing it seems. I thought primary school would be opened before end of June but now I am not so sure.

Penfailed

GazzaL wrote: »

The HSE can get ****ed, we've done our bit.

That's a really really immature statement.

the kelt

GazzaL wrote: »

What happens when the HSE inevitably fail to meet their targets, like they've already repeatedly failed to meet their targets?

They blame the public and the performing seals all sit around and clap on cue.

GazzaL

is_that_so wrote: »

The HSE testing capacity is planning to go up from 10,000 to 12,000 and then onto 15,000 about May 18. It's how the overall process from swab to test result to contact tracing responds. We should start to see some evidence of that from this week.

The HSE plans lots of things. Their plans aren't worth the paper they're written on. What happens if they fail again to hit those targets come 18th May?