stephenjmcd wrote: » Yup, I know people involved in non essential retail, the hospitality sector, all ready to go with measures in place. Longer they stay closed higher the chance they just wont reopen at all.
easypazz wrote: » Who said there will be a global recession?
snotboogie wrote: » What do people expect? The best case scenario is that the 2km exercise rule gets extended a bit, maybe a small relaxation on outdoor activity for over 70's, some specialist shops like garden centres opening with strict social distancing rules and outdoor jobs like construction returning to work. Unless you are over 70, have some extraordinary amenity (that is still open, maybe a beach or a park?) between 2km and 5km from your home or work in the building trade the relaxation of restrictions will have no material impact on you. The big ticket items like schools and offices reopening are months off. The really big ticket item, not having to be 2 metres away from anybody not in your household, has no solution in sight. Nobody know how we stop social distancing and the my guess is that we will still be doing it well into 2021. It seems the only thing that could change this in 2020 is a miracle drug being found.
pjohnson wrote: » What do you propose Ireland does to avoid the pending GLOBAL rescession? The "economists" here that seem to think Irelands economy continuing will somehow prevent the pending recession is so cute!
kwestfan08 wrote: » That is one depressing timeline. Essentially no meeting up with any friends either socially or travelling with them on any kind of holiday throughout the whole summer.
Stark wrote: » "Summer" is vague. Ireland defines it as May, June, July which is a month earlier than everywhere else in the Northern Hemisphere. Then you have the definition of calendar months of June, July, August used elsewhere and then the solstice to Equinox definition of summer which puts it even later. Let's hope they're referring to the Irish schoolkid definition of summer
An inability to meet the target of providing 100,000 tests a week “feeds into” the stance of officials in relation to the lifting of restrictions, according to the head of the Government’s expert advisory group on the disease, Dr Cillian de Gascun.
The phases are broken down as: initial phase, early phase stage one, early phase stage two, middle phases and late phases. The latter two phases could be broken down into more stages.
Under the latest draft, the first phase would allow the over-70s who are cocooning out to walk on a “no touch” basis; allow outdoor workers such as builders and gardeners return to work; allow a maximum of four people not from the same household gather outside while obeying social distancing; recommence some restricted classes for Leaving Cert students; potentially increase the distance people can travel outside their home for exercise from 2km to 5km or 10km; allow retailers such as DIY and garden centres reopen; and allow retail outlets deemed essential in an earlier round of restrictions – such as banks, repair shops, optometrists and others – open again.
The next phase – “early phase stage one” – would allow small retailers reopen by allowing only a limited number of staff and customers on the premises. Restrictions on travel away from the home could increase to 20km. Open marts could also recommence.
is_that_so wrote: » I know of offices who are back in next week and of others planning for some increased activity in May.
VonLuck wrote: » Was reading this article in the Irish Times this morning: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/revealed-phased-plan-to-exit-coronavirus-lockdown-in-ireland-may-see-cafes-reopen-by-mid-summer-1.4240404 Key points I noted were: Sounds like the travel distance restriction won't be lifted any time soon.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » Correct. The world will see the biggest and fastest annual decline in economic output in history this year.There is nothing we can do here that will make much difference to us, at all. We need to continue the measures to try and contain the virus and I'm glad to see that is what looks like happening. It's the only option for us.
GazzaL wrote: » I know a 75 year old who goes out to work every day. I wonder what he'd make of the clowns in NPHET telling him it's ok to step outside his front door now. He's not the only 70+ year old still working either!
VonLuck wrote: » Was reading this article in the Irish Times this morning: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/revealed-phased-plan-to-exit-coronavirus-lockdown-in-ireland-may-see-cafes-reopen-by-mid-summer-1.4240404 Key points I noted were:Sounds like the travel distance restriction won't be lifted any time soon.
robbiezero wrote: » Have you a link for that? I am not calling for an opening up of our economy, but I find it hard to believe there would be almost no difference to us whether our internal economy is shut down or not. No difference in having over a million people dependent on social welfare handouts etc.
snotboogie wrote: » What do people expect? The best case scenario is that the 2km exercise rule gets extended a bit
Ordinary man wrote: » Even if they lifted restrictions on cafes, restaurants and hotels, do you think people will risk going back? There's more chance of them going bust when they're open, fully staffed and paying full expenses with few if any customers
plodder wrote: » I was surprised at the loose talk around that already this morning.
lawred2 wrote: » it's his opinion... a wrong one in my opinion but still it's his opinion.. why are you asking for a link to back up his crystal ball gazing? Can he not just have an opinion?
stephenjmcd wrote: » Personally would I go into a restaurant or cafe when they open, yeah I would, I dont see why not
robbiezero wrote: » He can, no one is saying that he can't. Can I not just ask if there is anything substantial to back it up as I found it a surprising position to hold and I would be interested to see any concrete information on this?
lawred2 wrote: » just ask him to back it up then... he could try to do so using old fashioned argument... and not someone else's. I doubt he'll be able to argue such a position convincingly to be honest. But I'd like to see him try.
nj27 wrote: » Pretty disheartening news from Germany after their relaxation of restrictions. The medical authorities here will probably hold off a lot longer based on that data. Looks like we'll be living under the current restrictions for many months to come.
is_that_so wrote: » Relax, think positive. It might be two more weeks but we should then begin to emerge at that point.