P2C wrote: » In the north west the nursing homes have had restricted visitors since the department advice on visitor restrictions yet cases are now only beginning to present in nursing homes. The only people that are allowed into nursing homes are staff for the last few weeks yet their is a steady spread through these facilities. The staff are bringing the virus into the nursing homes and in some cases residents returning from hospital. Your statement around Tony’s biggest mistake off all I don’t think would of made a big difference in our area in the grand scheme of things. Unfortunately staff of nursing homes have families and live life outside the setting and their will always be the risk of spread into and out of the facility. if spread="appledrop;113303256"]I would 100% agree. It's very sad what's happening in nursing homes but really that's HSE issue know + only they can fix it. Dr. Holohan has a lot to answer for nursing homes when he criticised them for restricting visitors very early on. That was the biggest mistake of all.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » You doubt a lot. Lets wait and see what happens in friday. Then we can take to the streets with pitchforks.
Tenzor07 wrote: » From what I heard on RTE from Cillian De Gascun, they say that if they let the over 70s out for a couple of hours a day it would mean that others would be under a more severe lockdown. No indication that the 2k limit will be chang ed to 5k either, he basically said "We want people to stay at home..." no f9ckin plan at all..
Tell me how wrote: » That's a gross misrepresentation of what has been going on.
RugbyLad11 wrote: » It's good to see that some journalist are seeing the bull**** in this just like us
GT89 wrote: » If people are starting to breach the restrictions now then even more will breach them in a weeks time. Look at the traffic on the road compared to a week or two ago. Are they all going to essential jobs?
RoryMac wrote: » I think the announcement is due on Friday and I expect him to waffle on about being almost there and a last push will get us over the line. No mention of the failure to protect care homes or that they sent people with the disease to these homes in an attempt to make room in hospitals. Doubt we'll see a fully laid out plan for getting on top of the issue and working towards relaxing the restrictions. Seriously doubt he'll mention that they slapped down the care home managers when they tried to lock down these facilities in early March to protect the patients.
Muahahaha wrote: » So what do people think is going to happen? Leo on the tele on Sunday announcing another 3 weeks of lockdown, maybe even another 4 weeks to get us beyond the June bank holiday weekend? Seems everything is pointing in that direction right now. He might do two weeks then add another two in mid May.
KrustyUCC wrote: » Any extension is basically the mess in nursing homes etc and lack of testing Neither of which the general public had any effect on The vast vast majority of the general public have done our bit
Martin567 wrote: » https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/editorial/the-irish-times-view-on-easing-restrictions-the-state-s-side-of-the-bargain-1.4240385?mode=amp Really good editorial in the Irish Times also.
appledrop wrote: » Dr. Holohan has a lot to answer for nursing homes when he criticised them for restricting visitors very early on. That was the biggest mistake of all.
On March 10th 2020, chief medical officer Dr Tony Holohan said the blanket restrictions should be lifted because they were premature and impacted on residents’ social interactions.
The most senior Government health adviser advised against a review of CervicalCheck the day after Vicky Phelan called for an investigation into the screening programme. Instead, Tony Holohan, Department of Health chief medical officer (CMO), urged the health minister to opt for a report which Dr Holohan himself would prepare.
Tenzor07 wrote: » If the HSE thought that the community transmission rate was so low as to allow restrictions to be lifted then they would, but all the signals are that any lifting of restrictions will be minimal at best, which would beg the question, why maintain the current level of restrictions when the R0 number is .5?
RoryMac wrote: » My understanding is the r0 number they talk about gives an indication of the rate of community transmission and at present that is around 0.5 which is where they want it to be. The vast majority of new cases being released at present are in care or nursing homes where they ramped up testing last week. If community transmission is still high as you suggest then the restrictions are having absolutely no impact And that article is 2 weeks old
Deleted User wrote: » At least he’s asking questions !
FintanMcluskey wrote: » That type of journalism is the fundamental basis of democracy. Competent journalists/presenters don't communicate their personal belief's, they invoke thought and demand justification. Its times like these that poor presenters are so apparent, Joe wash your hands Duffy and Ryan stay at home fools Tubridy are stealing a living. Its so refreshing to hear Yates to question the narrative and field texts accusing him gross irresponsibility to question the actions of Leo, Tony and Simon. Questioning the actions of a man with experience of 18 previous Covid virus takes bravery. It also takes bravery to question a Dr who previously warned an advocate over questions directed at him during a cervical check crisis. These guy have being given a free reign on our future for 2 month's. Unchallenged and unquestioned. Armed detectives have been mobilised to protect areas of natural beauty this weekend. All in the name of a crisis in care homes. So I want to see them questioned, and I want answers
Tenzor07 wrote: » Any nothing said on the media lately has said that figure has been greatly reduced unless you have a link to say otherwise?
Tenzor07 wrote: » Here's a link after a quick Google to give some figures: 66-community-transmission-rate-a-challenge-in-irelands-covid-19-battle/
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Yeah it's the gubberments fault people beat their partners up and their children.
NIMAN wrote: » Thats 2 weeks old.
User142 wrote: » We should be holding the government to account this week but cleverly the government has gone on the attack and we will spend more time this week debating whether more people are walking outside the their 2km radius than the lack of promised testing and contact tracing....
