easypazz wrote: » I can't see what has changed this morning.
hmmm wrote: » We can't create unlimited capacity in our hospitals. We have doubled our ICU capacity which is amazing in itself. It's our job as a people to reduce the numbers going to hospital, and that can only be done by reducing our social contact. There was never any suggestion from anyone sensible that we could do this for a few weeks and then all go back to normal - this was a rumour spread by the #stayathome crowd who were taking photographs of people sitting on their own in parks, and lighting candles in their windows as if that would eliminate a virus.Except for lifting some of the restrictions, this is life now until we get a vaccine and we need to get used to it.
hmmm wrote: » People are getting scared because the full implication of this pandemic is setting in. Particularly if you run a business which is affected. It's expected I guess, but we have to get through this stage. They are going to lash out in an attempt to find someone to blame - Government, HSE, whoever. Only once we're through this can we begin to plan with how we are going to cope in an 80% economy.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Wait until Friday before we loose our ****.
polesheep wrote: » Or until we get a reliable antibody test. I heard yesterday that a nursing home a relative lives in had all the residents and staff tested and that almost all are positive, yet only two are seriously ill and most are asymptomatic. The longer this goes on the more I become convinced that most of the population have had this virus with a mild or asymptomatic reaction. As for the Independent and its clickbait articles. I suspect it's hanging on by a thread financially and I wouldn't believe a word it prints.
Tenzor07 wrote: » That sort of goodwill is running out for the lockdown measures, time to start treating the people of Ireland like adults!If we see someone about to run out in front of a Bus and get killed we will run and try and grab them back from being killed. If we're told stay in lockdown for another 2 weeks at least with no clear plans then we're just left sat there getting annoyed, not knowing what do do other than being a healthy person confined to home.No one I know has been tested for Covid, only this week the Fire service personnel can get tests. Nursing homes haven't got the PPE they need to function.Testing is still aiming for 100k tests, sure why not make it 200k tests, sounds just as aspirational!
the kelt wrote: » That’s pretty much it in a nutshell, makes you wonder why there hiding the information from the meetings etc from the general public, it’s not as if the cmo has previously had issues with transparency in regards to cervical check scandal for example. All the rhetoric about compliance with no it’s seem admission to failures in regards to contract tracing, testing and nursing homes etc, honesty won’t happen, it’s back covering time. Ye know what if they came out and said we need 2 more weeks of lockdown because we as the people in charge still haven’t sorted out issues in regards to contact tracing and testing and we may have erred in how we handled the nursing home situation I’d actually applaud them for their honesty and say fair enough, it’s an unprecedented situation, it’s understandable. But no we will have a few more rounds of blaming Johnny for going further than 2k to excercise and Mary for visiting family when she didn’t need to and another round of tut tut, let’s all pull together whilst we avoid any responsibility for our own failings. Like I said be up front and honest with people and they will go the journey with you, that seems to have completely ended.
What Username Guidelines wrote: » Seems like things are leaning that way, interesting tweet about 'tip of the iceberg'
lord quackinton wrote: » What people want Tuesday at minimum are All hardware stores open All construction sites open 2km bull**** scrapped - nonsense anyway All offices open - work remote if possible All schools open for leaving cert students Road map listing dates for all other important milestones Any less and People will start breaking all restrictions
polesheep wrote: » Forget about meetings and collective decision making. Holohan made a very telling comment yesterday when he said "I will decide closer to the time."
hmmm wrote: » The serology tests elsewhere in the world are showing an iceberg, but the fatality rate is coming in around .65%. That's nearly 30,000 deaths in Ireland. Flu kills less than a hundred in Ireland every year. Still too high, particularly as it means severely overloaded hospitals if left unchecked.
munsterlegend wrote: » Is there any possibility now of the restriction on schools reopening being lifted? I actually thought the primary schools would reopen before the end of June. Now I am not so sure.
Deleted User wrote: » The Government dropped then ball on nursing homes, my own mother is locked up in one........so we all have to pay the price for this on the outside ? How does me going for a 10km walk increase numbers in Nursing Homes ?
Naos wrote: » You mentioned earlier you went for a 15km drive. Let's say someone else that has Covid went on a 15km drive and stopped at a petrol station to fill up. This petrol station is beside your mothers nursing home in a community that has no known Covid cases. That person infects the Petrol Station employee and a Carer who is getting in the station picking up something for lunch. That Carer then brings it back into the nursing home and it infects your mother. That's why there's a 2km limit.
FishOnABike wrote: » I would think not a hope of this happening. The junior certificate has effectively been csncelled. Even managing a limited number of students in a tightly controlled environment to sit the leaving certificate isn't happening until the end of July / start of August. The detail around that, social distancing, pinch points at entrance and exits, supervision, timetable, transport, etc... still need to be worked out. Some third level institutions have indicated they will be delaying the start of 2020/2021 term until the end of September with a changed lecturing format of a mixture of online and on campus lectures, first year intake deferred for another month and first term exams deferred to January. There are reports of virus bearing micro droplets remaining suspended in the air for a considerable time in highly populated and poorly ventilated rooms. This, combined with the level of mixing in corridors before, between and after classes will mean that schools reopening will be well down the list. I can't see it making any sense to reopen schools before the natural break of the Summer holidays.
Stark wrote: » No that's not why there's a 2km limit. People are making up narratives to justify it. It was a kneejerk response to people "crowding beauty spots". Nothing more.
boring accountant wrote: » Source for that claim?
easypazz wrote: » 90% are over 65 though. Many more have a known underlying condition. Put solid protective measures in place for those and our worst case scenario death rate, assuming everybody gets it is much lower. Anybody concerned about themselves can continue to exercise social distancing etc. Spread over a number of years we could have a very manageable level of illness.
gw80 wrote: » Can someone explain to me the difference between this virus and the spanish flu? Some people are talking about "life will never be the same again" but by a lot of accounts the spanish flu killed between 50 and 100 million people and there was no such talk of vaccines or viral drugs but yet it only lasted a year or so, after it killed all it was going to kill and the rest became immune, What is the difference here bearing in mind this disease is less deadly than the spanish flu and we have the chance of a vaccine or viral drug on our side also, I think this virus will just run its coarse whatever we do, Except we have the hope of finding a vaccine or viral drug to help, Life did return to normal after the spanosh flu
lord quackinton wrote: » Sweden Chances of dying from corona .02% - no lockdown Uk Chances of dying from corona .03% - late to lockdown and Large population Ireland Chances of dying from corona .02% - early to lockdown and small population. Half of Sweden’s population America Chances of dying from corona .017% - Donald trump has received world criticism and is held been personally accountable for the thousands of deaths These percentages will be decreased when there is time to review the deaths How many people passed away with the virus but not from the virus will decrease the percentages Time to open up
Only in a year from now can we know if the Swedish approach has been proven right,"
