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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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Continuation of the "Relaxation of restrictions" from here.

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drunkmonkey wrote: »

They might do it tomorrow, watch out for massive numbers reported this evening for a justification of further lockdown.
I'd be surprised if I'm not back later to go, see I told you.

So that is not going to happen

timmy_mallet

Speakerboxx wrote: »

I think restrictions will last until the bank holday weekend in June.

Which ones?

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Long_Wave wrote: »

Facepalm

It's the best solution in fairness

road_high

Penfailed wrote: »

Do you actually think people want lockdown to continue indefinitely or do you accept that people are happy to do what the government has instructed for the betterment of everyone?

Do you want all the restrictions to finish now?

I believe some do, yes. For people that enjoy doing nothing (and there are plenty of them) this is state sponsored validation of the lifestyle. The same people will be making excuses all year as to not go to work due to fears of Covid- it’ll be the latest excuse Tus Nua (or whatever it’s called now) will be hearing.
There will be a lot of new anxiety surrounding work- Mark my words

Long_Wave

Kobe Colossal Cape wrote: »

Why can't each county ban international travel and any suppliers that do need to travel are tested on entry and exit? Each country should eradicate it first. That would surely be quicker than a vaccine?

Facepalm

Spencer Brown

Kobe Colossal Cape wrote: »

Given that people have taken it less seriously recently, I think he would hardly say we are on target to lift them next week as people would take the p.ss. So of course he is going to say we are not there yet.

Where do you people live? I just went for a walk down the Main Street of the town I live in and the place is absolutely dead, 5pm on a nice sunny day was quieter than a typical 9pm in the depths of winter.

pjohnson

joe40 wrote: »

Are you suggesting that some people would prefer more deaths.? I don't know if I'm more surprised at the stupidity or the crassness.
There is no lockdown brigade, nobody wants these restrictions and everyone would love a return to normality.
You know that though, don't even know why I'm engaging with idiotic comments.

Oddly its the people wanting things to "open up" that are probably dissapointed at the death count.

lord quackinton wrote: »

I suggested 10, 000 lives lost would be agreeable if the lockdown did not happen
In reality I would have found 20000 lives lost this year to it a better result then what has happened our economy

At least quacky was honest.

Speakerboxx

I think restrictions will last until the bank holday weekend in June.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

trapp wrote: »

Anyone else think that listening to Tony on when to remove restrictions is pointless.

We'll be dictated to by what happens elsewhere.

If UK and rest of Europe are easing restrictions we'll follow and vice versa.

Couldn't imagine us in lockdown if UK wasn't for example.

Given that people have taken it less seriously recently, I think he would hardly say we are on target to lift them next week as people would take the p.ss. So of course he is going to say we are not there yet.

trapp

Spencer Brown wrote: »

Oh my poor poor boy, some of the EU already are easing restrictions.

Exactly and if they continue I expect we'll follow suit.

Can't imagine us going on our own one way or the other.

stephenjmcd

As much as I want an easing. Listing to the CMO he doesn't sound of the opinion that he wants anything lifted simply based on nursing home and long term care settings, says the in or around 130 number in ICU is too high

Spencer Brown

trapp wrote: »

Anyone else think that listening to Tony on when to remove restrictions is pointless.

We'll be dictated to by what happens elsewhere.

If UK and rest of Europe are easing restrictions we'll follow and vice versa.

Couldn't imagine us in lockdown if UK wasn't for example.

Oh my poor poor boy, some of the EU already are easing restrictions.

trapp

Anyone else think that listening to Tony on when to remove restrictions is pointless.

We'll be dictated to by what happens elsewhere.

If UK and rest of Europe are easing restrictions we'll follow and vice versa.

Couldn't imagine us in lockdown if UK wasn't for example.

kippy

easypazz wrote: »

Bad news for the lockdown brigade today alright.

Nobody wants the current limited restrictions to go on for ever.
Everyone wants to see a return to 7 weeks ago.
There's no 'lockdown brigade'.

We are however going into a massive amount of uncertainty no matter what happens in the coming years. People are fearful.

iamwhoiam

The one big obstacle will be the lack of testing . And that is down to the HSE , we have done our part but have the HSE stepped up .

Penfailed

easypazz wrote: »

Bad news for the lockdown brigade today alright.

Do you actually think people want lockdown to continue indefinitely or do you accept that people are happy to do what the government has instructed for the betterment of everyone?

Do you want all the restrictions to finish now?

Speakerboxx

Gael23 wrote: »

18 deaths and 380 new cases today.
No justification to keep current restrictions in place after May 5th with those figures.

He said they be no reason to remove the restrictions right now unless it improves dramatically in a week. I think you may be wrong there.

joe40

easypazz wrote: »

Bad news for the lockdown brigade today alright.

Are you suggesting that some people would prefer more deaths.? I don't know if I'm more surprised at the stupidity or the crassness.
There is no lockdown brigade, nobody wants these restrictions and everyone would love a return to normality.
You know that though, don't even know why I'm engaging with idiotic comments.

Longing

Gael23 wrote: »

18 deaths and 380 new cases today.
No justification to keep current restrictions in place after May 5th with those figures.

The justification is we had lower cases per day before we had restrictions. I said last week we need to be between 100 and 200 cases per day to see easing and Tony has just confirmed it. He said we need to see lower numbers this week before we see changes. I too want to see easing but we need not to undo are work we have done.

road_high

Gael23 wrote: »

18 deaths and 380 new cases today.
No justification to keep current restrictions in place after May 5th with those figures.

Good to see them dropping. Fingers crossed it’ll keep going.
Just an anecdote but passed my local testing centre today twice and no cars queuing at all- last few Mondays it’s been very busy so hopefully a good sign that it’s dropping publicly now

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SecretsOfEarth wrote: »

Don't know if this has been mentioned in the thread as I'm only catching up, but this is NOT from the civil service.

This screenshot is from a RED C Survey from a few days ago, where they provided hypothetical scenarios and then asked you to comment on them, their lenience, the possibility of correct implementation etc.

The above picture is one of the scenarios - I completed the survey myself.

makes sense

I posted the pic originally - didn't say that it was real for sure. good discussion came out of it though!

hopefully the actual updates will be more substantial

what other scenarios were presented?

easypazz

Gael23 wrote: »

18 deaths and 380 new cases today.
No justification to keep current restrictions in place after May 5th with those figures.

Bad news for the lockdown brigade today alright.

Gael23

18 deaths and 380 new cases today.
No justification to keep current restrictions in place after May 5th with those figures.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Why can't each county ban international travel and any suppliers that do need to travel are tested on entry and exit? Each country should eradicate it first. That would surely be quicker than a vaccine?

pjohnson

drunkmonkey wrote: »

They might do it tomorrow, watch out for massive numbers reported this evening for a justification of further lockdown.
I'd be surprised if I'm not back later to go, see I told you.

Turning into full conspiracy now.

Priceless.

SecretsOfEarth

Discodog wrote: »

Can a Gaeilgeoir confirm that Fanacht means Wait ? Would be the perfect name for an Operation that kept hundreds waiting at checkpoints.

Can also be "stay", I assumed Operation Fanacht was basically an Irish version of calling it "Operation Stay at Home".

Discodog

Can a Gaeilgeoir confirm that Fanacht means Wait ? Would be the perfect name for an Operation that kept hundreds waiting at checkpoints.

kilkenny31

drunkmonkey wrote: »

They might do it tomorrow, watch out for massive numbers reported this evening for a justification of further lockdown.
I'd be surprised if I'm not back later to go, see I told you.

I think they have put themselves in a tricky situation. They should have kept the current restrictions in place until well after the bank holiday weekend maybe the 8th. Because they are due to expire early next week the government will be under pressure to announce something this week but that runs the risk of people taking any easing of restrictions announced for after the 5th as applicable over the bank holiday weekend. They should announce this week that they will give an update on restrictions on Monday night to avoid confusion.

KrustyUCC

Doubt they will go that early

Doubt they have the unwinding the restrictions plan finalised either

drunkmonkey

is_that_so wrote: »

No, I'm expecting something midweek, Thursday at the very latest.

They might do it tomorrow, watch out for massive numbers reported this evening for a justification of further lockdown.
I'd be surprised if I'm not back later to go, see I told you.