facehugger99 wrote: » Some of the latest analysis is projecting a potential €30bn deficit this year.https://www.businesspost.ie/economics/budget-deficit-could-hit-30bn-this-year-8b125be0 This is a truly frightening figure. We are already €200bn in debt from the last recession. The electorate don't want to hear about prudent management and tough decisions and there is a host of political parties that will pander to them. Borrow, borrow borrow and spend spend spend will be the cry of the masses. We have a weak Government about to take the reigns of power and the leader of the largest opposition party is mouthing platitudes about taking on a €12bn a year unification project, as directed by her shadowy overlords in the 'army council'. We are borrowing against our children's and grandchildren's futures. What kind of a world are we bequeathing them? A poisoned environment and a wrecked economy crippled with debt. And this is the generation we hope will pay our pensions when the time comes. We will be viewed as cowardly, greedy and self-centered by future generations and it is all we deserve.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » The way we're been treated? Jesus id hate to see you try survive through a bit of hardship like many in the world. Pathetic.
Tacitus Kilgore wrote: » It's all made up money anyway, wouldn't be too worried about it
easypazz wrote: » Its disgusting. And the media are milking it for all its worth to sell copy.
Breezin wrote: » Ooh, you're hard. Bring it on, what?
Hearty80 wrote: » What's pathetic about wanting information from the government??? The same that has happened in EVERY other European country?? Don't be so ignorant
easypazz wrote: » Yes, a clear plan, or strategy would settle people. If we reach milestone X, certain businesses open. If we reach milestone Y, more things open. Numbers go bad we implement restriction A and B. The message being given at the moment is that they haven't a fcuking clue. Every other country is talking positive. Here we Leo warning people he will extend the lockdown for a few weeks if people are bold.
retro:electro wrote: » Leo would want to have a very good reason come Friday, or whenever he makes his speech, to extend this lockdown until another arbitrary date. Most of us have done all we can, we have abided by the rules and have played ball. But if this is stretched out for another two weeks “just because” then I can see a lot of people just not accepting it. Our numbers are steady, our hospitals aren’t overwhelmed, there is nothing to suggest this crisis isn’t being managed in an appropriate way so why not let society try and adapt to this new normal in a measured way instead of locking us all up until the big bad wolf has disappeared, which is never going to happen. At least not in the near future anyway. Stretching this out another two weeks will just see us at the exact same point and asking the exact same questions in two weeks time. We need to try and live with this virus now and the only way we can do that is by adopting the new behaviours we have learned and try and return to some level of what is normal. I can see Leo coming on saying we are doing great but not great enough, a few more weeks and we’ll be there. We will never be “there”. As long as this virus exists we will have to live in a way where we use our own judgement and be sensible. A slow opening of some services with appropriate social distancing in place makes sense. Let people travel outside of 2k ffs. And let us visit our family members, even to sit in the garden and have a chat once a week. Loneliness and isolation is a fate worse than death for some people.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Bring what on?
retro:electro wrote: » Leo would want to have a very good reason come Friday, or whenever he makes his speech, to extend this lockdown until another arbitrary date......................... Stretching this out another two weeks will just see us at the exact same point and asking the exact same questions in two weeks time..............
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » You think Leo is doing this just because? You think they want us all too be suffering?
joseywhales wrote: » The idea that loses of life through suicide equate to deaths from covid is some misnomer. The fact that one group consents to death is fairly key, no matter how terrible the situation. I was watching this line of questioning for Andrew Cuomo last week, like they were trying to lead him into belittling mental health issues. But at the end of the day a suicide is not the same as a non consensual death and the spreading of a disease to innocent third parties.
LiquidZeb wrote: » Yeah tell the Greeks how made up their national debt from all the bailouts is. Jesus are you that clueless?
timmy_mallet wrote: » Think they said that in the Weimar Republic too.
drunkmonkey wrote: » Do you trust a government that failed to plan for a pandemic to come up with a sensible plan to get us out of a pandemic. I certainly don't.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » People are going on about mental health and domestic abuse because they are worried about this crisis hitting their pocket and their personal freedoms being curtailed, as if they give a sh*t really.
Tacitus Kilgore wrote: » My name isn't Jesus? Their Debts are in makey-uppey money too tbh. Not quite no - I think they said something along the lines of this (I don't know any german though so may not be correct) - Es ist sowieso alles Geld verdient, wäre nicht zu besorgt darüber What governments would you trust to do so?
LiquidZeb wrote: » So the 120,000 people who are facing job losses in the restaurant sector are just worried about losing a few Bob? Must be great being so superior not having to worry about money Monk. Hope it lasts for you.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » That's completely unrelated to what I said
road_high wrote: » The Interest payment that we will have to come up with to service this won’t be made up money- I can assure you of that.
