titan18 wrote: » Common sense says the more people asymptomatic carriers are in contact with, the more cases we have and thus more cases having go into hospitals. If someone is only around 2 people now and is around 20 after we ease, that's obviously a lot more with it. That would thus put a higher load on hospitals which will then mean those with other illnesses are less likely to get the treatment they need.
Some studies have indicated people with COVID-19 tend to have a high viral load just before and shortly after they start getting symptoms. This suggests they can transmit it when they first get sick and up to 48 hours before, while they’re pre-symptomatic.However, there is no good evidence that asymptomatic people who never develop symptoms are able to pass it on.
robbiezero wrote: » Travel restrictions should be lifted entirely on the 5th. The advice should be to continue social distancing and just travel for essential reasons or to visit family. Need to stop treating people like children and punishing 99% for the actions of the 1%. Tourist spots or places where people can congregate will and probably should remain off limits for another while.
normanoffside wrote: » ICU Covid patients are at 118 today. The lowest number in over a month and it's dropping every day (from a high of 164 IIRC). We were told that social restrictions were brought in to stop ICU being swamped. It has worked. It's not unreasonable to expect a relaxation of restrictions as a result.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Well if I went from Dublin 50km away and spread it around there, those people could go another 50km etc etc etc and before you know it I've spread it to Kerry! So it's a tricky one alright. My mother texted me all excited saying they'll be allowed out for walks from 2nd May, down in Spain. So if you think we have it bad!
normanoffside wrote: » That's a load of waffle.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » I agree totally with your opinion here. Complete idiots that are in denial of the fact we have lowered the RO sufficiently and also successfully prevented the ICU being swamped with patients. So there is now an issue with care homes that cant be helped from the outside. And only the idiots think restrictions are necessary to fight the care home issue
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Because the approach of lets wait and see while the Exchequer is hemoraging and sending us into the 1930s. If the RO was still at 5 or if the ICU was overran the restrictions are justified. What will the following 3 weeks of restrictions achieve?
alwald wrote: » You waffle quite a lot and yet you have no skills...the fact is if you were skilled in anything linked to C-19 then you won't be here waffling around pretending that you know everything.
normanoffside wrote: » You have no common sense. I have posted several articles show that staying inside is counter productive and you ignore them all. You think common sense is following unproven dictats from our dear leaders. Common sense is actually doing your own research, independently thinking about the value of 'rules' and making your own informed decisions on the basis of all that. Rather than having common sense, you prefer to be told what to do and then tell everyone that they must do the same. That's not common sense at all.
stephenjmcd wrote: » Depends on the business really and where they stand in the essential and non essential list. Last I heard from my office last week was middle of June all going well. That would be 3 months working from home.
GT89 wrote: » I'd settle with 50km. It would stop people going from Dublin to far flung places like Donegal or Kerry but would allow people to pursue most outdoor leisure activities like golf, fishing, hill walking etc. or visit some family members.
Mic 1972 wrote: » They are complete idiots acting in total denial of the issue
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Common sense seems to be in short supply going by the attitude of several posters on this forum lately.
normanoffside wrote: » Yep let's make no decisions ourselves and watch what other people are doing. Ireland's Curtain Twitcher in Chief (ICTIC) Dr Tony Holohan can bring his new founds skills to an international level and watch through the curtains from afar. It's great to be part of such a modern and forward looking country.
Dickie10 wrote: » i dont think we should lift too much maybe let people go 10km , but no shopping centres open. lets seee what happens with these european countries who have opened up . maybe hardware stores and constuction site open but no hairdressers or barbers after another fortnight we will see how austria and denmark are doing and if theres a spike. if we keep another half restriced movement until may 20th then we coud get cafes and restauraunts and cinemas opened by mid june
Dumdum McCarthy wrote: » I work in an ETB College, I've been listening to Leo, and Simon Harris again today saying measures could continue for another 2 to 3 weeks if we drop our gaurd or dont stick to the guidelines. We have heard that there has been more movement in the last week, this is true for my place of work. From 2 on a Friday people going into the college last week to an average 10 per day this week.. So basically some teaching staff arranged to come in and were told park there cars around the side ( hidden from public view). In one case a teacher met students in a shopping centre car park to collect arraignment s, and brought the assigments then into d school. When the annouments were made schools ,colleges closed in March we didnt really,we had an odd student using a computer room and the public still coming into reception asking about courses... Any other ETBs running like this, I find wrong that it happening by an government educational run college, health telling us abide by the laws and education sector sending people to work..we have been classed as essential workers by the way..
Deleted User wrote: » Why not leave it 2 to 3 weeks and see where issues arise elsewhere surronding flare-up in cases from reopening and target these espically with an irish perspective Seems kind of commonsense tbh?? The care home issue is being sorted,all workers tested,2 care assistants cant live in same house being brought in etc etc.....they fcuked up there,but working to fix it And wipespread testing unlikely to be brought in,until these are sorted
Thelonious Monk wrote: » So you won't have a problem with Dubs going all over the country?
FintanMcluskey wrote: » No absolutely not. The restrictive approach is sending us hurtling into the 1930s. Its the approach Leo is implementing, and it needs to be immediately reviewed. At what point do we decide after watching other countries that we are safe? Next year? How will the EU approach solve the care home issue?
Stheno wrote: » Will likely be one of the last restrictions to be lifted I know two companies planning for it to be end of September
Mick McGraw wrote: » Any idea when people who can work from home will be allowed to go back to the office. If companies are able to operate with staff working from home will they be stopped for a long while from going back to normal working arrangements or as soon as shops start to open can they just go back to normal aswell.
road_high wrote: » Don’t worry- when the jobs that depend on tourism dry up the tune will slowly change. The lockdown maniacs are still at peak lockdown mode plus the welfare is still flowing so they can continue with the siege mentality. For now. But soon their kids won’t have that summer job in the local hotel that helps pay their college, the local trade men and service providers won’t have the same work and will be letting local people go. Come back to me in 6 months or a years time and we’ll see how these places are fairing then. If I was a Dubliner with cash North Wexford would not be on my radar anymore particularly after the insults and abuse from locals I saw on social media.
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