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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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Continuation of the "Relaxation of restrictions" from here.

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c68zapdsm5i1ru

I agree the 2km restriction should be broadened. But lifting it altogether will just see hundreds of second homes descending on seaside resorts, increasing the risk for residents and putting pressure on smaller hospitals that just wouldn't be able to cope.

BanditLuke

Unelected CMO wrote: »

Source for that Bandit?

Oh i dunno doctors and nurses who are dead and seriosuly ill thoughout the world from the virus from treating people.

Ulysses Gaze

facehugger99 wrote: »

If they don't start to relax the restrictions after May the 5th, people are entitled to ask 'what-the actual-fcuk is the plan?'.

What are we waiting for?
The virus to die off - not happening.
A vaccine to be available - not happening.

There is literally no justification for an extension of the current restrictions. We will be in the exact same place as we are now in 4 or 8 or 12 weeks time.

We need to get back to something resembling normality!

Holohan needs to be reigned back in - nobody has elected this fcuker to lecture us and remove our democratic freedoms.
Having to listen to the merchant of doom pontificating every evening is galling.

Don't like it? Get out and protest like they have in the States.

LessOutragePlz

I'll be relaxing the restrictions myself on the 5th of May even if the government doesn't.

BanditLuke

facehugger99 wrote: »

If they don't start to relax the restrictions after May the 5th, people are entitled to ask 'what-the actual-fcuk is the plan?'.

What are we waiting for?
The virus to die off - not happening.
A vaccine to be available - not happening.

There is literally no justification for an extension of the current restrictions. We will be in the exact same place as we are now in 4 or 8 or 12 weeks time.

We need to get back to something resembling normality!

Holohan needs to be reigned back in - nobody has elected this fcuker to lecture us and remove our democratic freedoms.
Having to listen to the merchant of doom pontificating every evening is galling.

This was always going to be a health based decision. I still think people like yourself fail to grasp how serious this is.

Unelected CMO

BanditLuke wrote: »

They get sick, they go to hospital, they put nurses and doctors at risk. Doctors and nurses who have families and a life unlike some asshats sitting in a pub in painters uniforms to avoid detection.

Source for that Bandit?

BanditLuke

easypazz wrote: »

How were they putting anybody at risk?

They get sick, they go to hospital, they put nurses and doctors at risk. Doctors and nurses who have families and a life unlike some asshats sitting in a pub in painters uniforms to avoid detection.

The fact i have to explain this to you is very worrying and i wonder how many there are like you out there who just don't care about their fellow humans.

KaneToad

easypazz wrote: »

How were they putting anybody at risk?

Have been paying attention, at all, about Covid19 and how infectious it is?

normanoffside

Deleted User wrote: »

I drove out to Sligo the week before the current lockdown, and everyone was socially distancing

The problem is that if someone puts up a picture on Twitter or Facebook, due to lack of perspective of photography, it can look like people are more piled together than they really are.

I have no Issue with sending a few random Guards to the more popular Beauty spots to 'make sure' people are generally keeping distance. That would make more sense than closing them down altogether

Van.Bosch

robbiezero wrote: »

They can keep the car parks of tourist attractions etc blocked. Travel limit needs to go on May 5th and let people see their families and id be confident it will be lifted.

Let them see them as in through windows or actually visit people’s houses?

drunkmonkey

easypazz wrote: »

Problem with increasing limit is people will all pile into some small seaside town or forest park, it will be all over twitter and everybody will throw their toys out of the pram.

They won't if they don't open the car parks and toilets. Lahinch before any lockdown was a perfect example, carparks sealed, playground, public toilets all shops, pubs, restraunts closed. There was 2 food shops and the surf shop open nothing else.

easypazz

BanditLuke wrote: »

Not when it puts others at risk it isnt.

How were they putting anybody at risk?

[Deleted User]

normanoffside wrote: »

It doesn’t matter if they go 2, 10 or 10,000 km.
If people maintain some form of social distancing in an outdoor environment there is zero risk of cross infection.

It’s a stupid rule that needs lifting.

That’s my point. If everyone is concentrated into a small number of places that come within the boundary of an arbitrary radius, then social distancing is impossible

I drove out to Sligo the week before the current lockdown, and everyone was socially distancing

robbiezero

easypazz wrote: »

Problem with increasing limit is people will all pile into some small seaside town or forest park, it will be all over twitter and everybody will throw their toys out of the pram.

They can keep the car parks of tourist attractions etc blocked. Travel limit needs to go on May 5th and let people see their families and id be confident it will be lifted.

facehugger99

If they don't start to relax the restrictions after May the 5th, people are entitled to ask 'what-the actual-fcuk is the plan?'.

What are we waiting for?
The virus to die off - not happening.
A vaccine to be available - not happening.

There is literally no justification for an extension of the current restrictions. We will be in the exact same place as we are now in 4 or 8 or 12 weeks time.

We need to get back to something resembling normality!

Holohan needs to be reigned back in - nobody has elected this fcuker to lecture us and remove our democratic freedoms.
Having to listen to the merchant of doom pontificating every evening is galling.

normanoffside

Deleted User wrote: »

I think that 10km might have the consequence of huge concentrations of people in Howth and the likes. Draw a circle around 10km of Dublin City centre and you don’t get that many places that people will go to. If people are going to be release from the 2km, they need to be given the opportunity to spread out further into the country. To head out west or into the Wicklow mountain etc, just like it was in the couple of weeks before this current lockdown

It doesn’t matter if they go 2, 10 or 10,000 km.
If people maintain some form of social distancing in an outdoor environment there is zero risk of cross infection.

It’s a stupid rule that needs lifting.

Ellie1988

katie275 wrote: »

When do people reckon realistically physiotherapists and beauty salons will re-open? I have back and neck problems that are exacerbated at the moment and my acne is flaring up badly without getting treatments

I know others are much worse off and don't mean to sound selfish

There are still physiotherapists open in dublin at least

BanditLuke

facehugger99 wrote: »

It's a sad state of affairs where a man is abused for having a couple of pints with his friends.

Welcome to the Ireland of the Lockdown Nazis

Not when it puts others at risk it isnt.

[Deleted User]

nj27 wrote: »

2km up to 10km would be a good start, if you put it on a map it actually does open things up a lot, but I agree I'd like to see it removed altogether. Being stuck inside a 2km radius is by far the worst aspect of the lockdown for me, and the least effective as far as I can see. The local streets arm jammed full of joggers and walkers and you spend more time weaving between the crowds to maintain 2m distance than actually walking. I'd usually walk or jog in spacious park where I'd easily keep distance.

I think that 10km might have the consequence of huge concentrations of people in Howth and the likes. Draw a circle around 10km of Dublin City centre and you don’t get that many places that people will go to. If people are going to be release from the 2km, they need to be given the opportunity to spread out further into the country. To head out west or into the Wicklow mountain etc, just like it was in the couple of weeks before this current lockdown

facehugger99

c montgomery wrote: »

Tosser

It's a sad state of affairs where a man is abused for having a couple of pints with his friends.

Welcome to the Ireland of the Lockdown Nazis

BanditLuke

JoeA3 wrote: »

The power is going to Tony’s head. There’s a real school headmaster vibe off him and no one likes being told off by a school teacher. Harris is sitting up at the top of the class with his briefcase. The teacher’s pet.

Sooner we start seeing and hearing less of either of them, the better.

And so it begins.

UrbanFret

If the country wants to know why the people are moving around again they only have to look to Keelings. This was the beginning of the end of lockdown. Throw in the Travellers doing as they please and you'll soon get the picture. How many extra lives it costs we'll know someday.

celt262

katie275 wrote: »

When do people reckon realistically physiotherapists and beauty salons will re-open? I have back and neck problems that are exacerbated at the moment and my acne is flaring up badly without getting treatments

I know others are much worse off and don't mean to sound selfish

Nobody can answer you that only guess. My guess is that the beautician wont be open for a long time.

katie275

When do people reckon realistically physiotherapists and beauty salons will re-open? I have back and neck problems that are exacerbated at the moment and my acne is flaring up badly without getting treatments

I know others are much worse off and don't mean to sound selfish

UI_Paddy

I definitely think some restrictions should be gradually eased on May 5th. Isolation is the absolute worst thing for mental health. There have been people who have lost loved ones without a chance to pay their respects, kids of separated parents who can't see their mother or father, isolated grandparents and elderly folk. I can wait for pubs, restaurants, hotels etc as they will be able to adapt to new norms and bounce back, but many will suffer untold hardship (not just economical) if nothing changes.

martingriff

normanoffside wrote: »

Those twitter hoardes just need to be told that there is practically zero risk of infection in the outdoors.
The CMO I'm sure knows this but he's all about the optics of those pictures and pile ons.

You do know just because it's near zero now does not make is so in the future just go f it and socialize together

martingriff

SNNUS wrote: »

Some cheek of the Govt to beat us with the complacency stick when they have all these
flights arriving without people been checked.

another one on the way

https://www.flightradar24.com/BLA3VA/24679691

You got a source of how many people on it or if it bringing in cargo or they won't be isolating. I mean where are they going to go

martingriff

LiquidZeb wrote: »

You do realize how emotionally immature that sounded? If someone's depressed from losing their job, not seeing family, losing their house what good is that?

I have not seen my family in ages. I have missed birthday parties and can not go and see my mothers grave which is in another county. My job and house ain't at risk as I can still work which I am thankful for. So yes I get it, will my suggestion help some I hope so but I know it will not for other. Should people just shut up unless they have a 1 size fits all solution.

SNNUS

Some cheek of the Govt to beat us with the complacency stick when they have all these
flights arriving without people been checked.

another one on the way

https://www.flightradar24.com/BLA3VA/24679691

easypazz

normanoffside wrote: »

Those twitter hoardes just need to be told that there is practically zero risk of infection in the outdoors.
The CMO I'm sure knows this but he's all about the optics of those pictures and pile ons.

There was somebody on here the other day complaining that when he was out in his car there were lots of cars on the road.

Pot, kettle, black.