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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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Continuation of the "Relaxation of restrictions" from here.

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trapp

Penfailed wrote: »

None of it is permanent!

There will be weddings, gigs, all-Irelands, etc. Schools, pubs, colleges, restaurants, etc. will reopen.

Some things may change...but everything changes eventually anyway.

When?

A vaccine is years away.

Penfailed

trapp wrote: »

Which parts are not permanent do you think?

None of it is permanent!

There will be weddings, gigs, all-Irelands, etc. Schools, pubs, colleges, restaurants, etc. will reopen.

Some things may change...but everything changes eventually anyway.

trapp

fin12 wrote: »

I agree with u, at the start of this I was like only going out once a week to the shops now I’ll go 2 or 3 times a week. I’m still doing all the precautions but definitely going out more.

I think this was always going to happen over time.

Even the numbers posting on these threads seem to have reduced
(which could make an interesting graph mods? did numbers peak around start of april and reduce as fear of the virus reduced and complacency set in)

We don't function just sitting inside all day.

Watching netflix is fine as a break at the weekend, not as a way of life.

Rightly or wrongly the lockdown is over.

Glenomra

trapp wrote: »

I'm just wondering has it home what exactly is happening here and worldwide.

We're hearing stay at home, clap the frontline, watch netflix, enjoy family life and so forth but it seems fake or forced positivity.

In Ireland alone this is what's happening.

Thousands of people are now going to unemployed and all the effects of that

Many, many shops and businesses will never reopen

Very few pubs, restaurants will survive

The major sports of this country gaelic games, soccer and rugby are banned indefinitely both for large events and at local level. No more all irelands.

Our children can't mix with each other or go to school

Our young people can't go to college (online studying is not the same)

Our children can no longer play sport. Let that sink in for a second.

Funerals, weddings and so on are no more.

18ths, 21sts, 40ths, are no more.

Socialising in groups is no more. How do our young people meet a partner? Genuine question.

Concerts, festivals, parades, community days are no more.

We're heading into a depression, never mind a recession and emigration for a better life is off the table.

Many, many people in this country will be dependent on the state.

Most people I talk to still think we'll get back to some type of normal soon or that we'll have a vaccine to save the day. That could be years away.

Is life as outlined above sustainable or will the **** hit the fan over the summer and into the autumn.

I don't think the way we're going is just making a sacrifice for the frontline as it's being portrayed by politicians and in the media.

From what I can see it's complete destruction of our lives.

What a brilliant summary. Should be posted up on ever one of the coronavirus topics every day. This is the needless reality that people imposed upon themselves .

fin12

trapp wrote: »

Lads I think the lockdown if that is what is was is over.

It was always relying on the public to obey as our police force is not set up to enforce something like that.

Rightly or wrongly it's over and especially as we move in to the summer I can't see the government being able to enforce it.

The fear of the virus has gone.

I agree with u, at the start of this I was like only going out once a week to the shops now I’ll go 2 or 3 times a week. I’m still doing all the precautions but definitely going out more.

rusty the athlete

Strumms wrote: »

About doing what YOU can to be part of the solution as opposed to being part of the problem..

So I caused a pandemic. Sorry about that, I beg your forgiveness.

LiquidZeb

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

"Smile," they said, "life could be worse!"
So I did
And it was.

I know I'm taking the piss out of the shut up and watch Netflix brigade.

trapp

Penfailed wrote: »

What a pessimistic post. Very little of what you've posted is permanent. "...complete destruction of our lives"...wise up.

I hope it's overly pessamistic but fear its not.

Which parts are not permanent do you think?

And remember I'm not disagreeing with the restrictions just counting the cost and the end of our way of life.

Penfailed

trapp wrote: »

I'm just wondering has it home what exactly is happening here and worldwide.

We're hearing stay at home, clap the frontline, watch netflix, enjoy family life and so forth but it seems fake or forced positivity.

In Ireland alone this is what's happening.

Thousands of people are now going to unemployed and all the effects of that

Many, many shops and businesses will never reopen

Very few pubs, restaurants will survive

The major sports of this country gaelic games, soccer and rugby are banned indefinitely both for large events and at local level. No more all irelands.

Our children can't mix with each other or go to school

Our young people can't go to college (online studying is not the same)

Our children can no longer play sport. Let that sink in for a second.

Funerals, weddings and so on are no more.

18ths, 21sts, 40ths, are no more.

Socialising in groups is no more. How do our young people meet a partner? Genuine question.

Concerts, festivals, parades, community days are no more.

We're heading into a depression, never mind a recession and emigration for a better life is off the table.

Many, many people in this country will be dependent on the state.

Most people I talk to still think we'll get back to some type of normal soon or that we'll have a vaccine to save the day. That could be years away.

Is life as outlined above sustainable or will the **** hit the fan over the summer and into the autumn.

I don't think the way we're going is just making a sacrifice for the frontline as it's being portrayed by politicians and in the media.

From what I can see it's complete destruction of our lives.

What a pessimistic post. Very little of what you've posted is permanent. "...complete destruction of our lives"...wise up.

Dickie10

i would imagine cafes and restauraunts open before pubs. like there easy to social distance on wiatress comes to the table at a safe distance or you order at the counter/bar 2 metres apart before returning to your table. i mean people in general dont walk around getting in the way in restauraunts and cafes.

hmmm

road_high wrote: »

I find the "essential" worker lists rather distasteful and divisive. Even though I am one myself, our company has stopped all travel bar very essential/production staff itself.
It has given imagined superiority to a group of people in some professions- to my mind all jobs are essential as to the person and dependents in question it is likely the difference between poverty and living a reasonable lifestyle.

This has given us an interesting view of what living under Communism might be like, along the lines of what the hard-left in Ireland would be proposing for Ireland.

We get told which jobs are essential and which are not. We get told which people the government will allow go to work. We are told where we can travel and where we can not travel. Our movements are checked by the police. We queue at supermarkets. Most stores which are "non essential" are closed. We have nightly news briefings.

In saying all that, I support what the government are doing, and I think they are doing a good job so far. But I wouldn't want to live the rest of my life like this.

road_high

I find the "essential" worker lists rather distasteful and divisive. Even though I am one myself, our company has stopped all travel bar very essential/production staff itself.
It has given imagined superiority to a group of people in some professions- to my mind all jobs are essential as to the person and dependents in question it is likely the difference between poverty and living a reasonable lifestyle.

trapp

Lads I think the lockdown if that is what is was is over.

It was always relying on the public to obey as our police force is not set up to enforce something like that.

Rightly or wrongly it's over and especially as we move in to the summer I can't see the government being able to enforce it.

The fear of the virus has gone.

road_high

polesheep wrote: »

Source.

Anecdotally I’m sensing a lot of people very fed up with this and the lack of direction on an exit strategy- and the esteemed Dr Holohan’s threats to extend the severe lockdown- basically threatening tens of thousands with job losses and inevitable poverty with it.
There’s a baying Lynch mob out there (very vocal) and will use use the “killing people” mantra at any hint of reasoned debate.- the only way they will they change their tunes is once the €350 is cut down (watch this space) and same for jobseekers etc. It’s fine once the cash keeps coming

GazzaL

They haven't a hope of keeping the lockdown going beyond the May Bank Holiday. Loads more people out and about again today, all social distancing. Lots more cars on the road, lots of jobs being done, lots of over 70s out walking and in supermarkets. I was talking to a Garda at a checkpoint and they said the fella they let through before me had travelled half the length of the country.

[Deleted User]

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Why leave up to AGS to enforce? They don't have the resources to go and check everyone. Why not do what other counties are doing and send people to a hotel room for 2 weeks...

They don’t need to check everyone. They just need to do a random check and publicly hammer anyone who is caught. That will quickly focus minds.

And they don’t lock people into a hotel on Australia, contrary to popular belief. That’s only if you don’t have a place to self isolate. They do checks and impose fines

Whiplash85

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Why leave up to AGS to enforce? They don't have the resources to go and check everyone. Why not do what other counties are doing and send people to a hotel room for 2 weeks...

If Dennis O Bribe or Larry Goodman owned a big consortium of hotels you can be sure this would have happened.

Strumms

rusty the athlete wrote: »

About what?

About doing what YOU can to be part of the solution as opposed to being part of the problem..

polesheep

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I'm afraid you're in the minority, most people support what the Government are currently doing. It's not permanent but it has to be done to stop the disease spreading.

Source.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

LiquidZeb wrote: »

About mass unemployment and destitution. Still could be worse I guess.

"Smile," they said, "life could be worse!"
So I did
And it was.

RugbyLad11

Deleted User wrote: »

Reported in the Irish Times this morning that self isolation will be enforced now for all arrivals. Details taken upon arrival, and then you’d be checked on by AGS to ensure you are home. With, presumably, sizeable fines and possible imprisonments if you are not (Australia has the same system with a $11k fine or 6 months in prison)

Why leave up to AGS to enforce? They don't have the resources to go and check everyone. Why not do what other counties are doing and send people to a hotel room for 2 weeks...

gauchesnell

agree...i think this will be norm for a while and something we will have to get used to but it will impact on businesses.

repeated opening and closing

[Deleted User]

gauchesnell wrote: »

oh dear. Are people aware that an intreo office is closed after a staff member was diagnosed with Cov-19. Other staff being tested. Office now closed.

Is this a surprise to anyone? This will be happening regularly to loads of offices over the next months and years as people catch the virus, and some of them inevitably are back to work in offices. Good time to own a deep cleaning company

It will all be part of living with this virus

begbysback

lol @ requests for corks source

The fluff between the ears!!

LiquidZeb

rusty the athlete wrote: »

About what?

About mass unemployment and destitution. Still could be worse I guess.

rusty the athlete

Strumms wrote: »

Be positive

About what?

gauchesnell

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Hmm which one?

Thought offices were closed to the public anyway?

Doesnt say office but an office in Dublin - was included in update from Union. Not sure if office was open to public but staff still going to work there.

hold on read the article - yes office was open to public

Office now closed on public health grounds - for those wondering who can close businesses etc

ah here thats not good

KrustyUCC

gauchesnell wrote: »

oh dear. Are people aware that an intreo office is closed after a staff member was diagnosed with Cov-19. Other staff being tested. Office now closed.

Hmm not good

which one?

Thought offices were closed to the public anyway?

gauchesnell

oh dear. Are people aware that an intreo office is closed after a staff member was diagnosed with Cov-19. Other staff being tested. Office now closed.

Unelected CMO

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Actually after a good start the Gardai are of late not enforcing the new laws anywhere near as strictly as they should be. To state they are adopting a 1984 approach is complete and utter nonsense and smacks of someone who has issues with paranoia.

Source?