Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » But the health authorities must start with their guidelines first. Until that happens schools cannot make plans or suggestions. All schools can do until health authorities give them guidelines, is manage operation under current requirements of the lockdown and school closure. Schools cannot get the planning started for reopening.
iamwhoiam wrote: » Yes . Absolutely they will need guidance and guidelines so its a good idea to start now and get the planning started
Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » My point is that without health guidelines schools, teachers, unions etc cannot possibly make any plans or suggestions. One day a week or 5 days a week is irrelevant to that point, other than to underline the massive lscale of the uncertainty over what may be possible according to health authorities. If they don't give an indication of how much students and staff need to keep away from each other, or about the level of cleaning required in order for individuals to share furniture and objects, or about who exactly may be deemed too at risk to mix in public, then we are left with an infinite number of possible scenarios to consider and plan for. Education personnel are in no position to gauge the health risks or prevention measures required. They need to be told : plan for how to operate with everyone having min 4m2 personal space and everyone only mixing with the same max 8 people at any time and at least 2 rows distance between passengers on a bus; or plan how to operate with everyone having their own desk, and own seat on a bus but no issues mixing beyond that; etc.
iamwhoiam wrote: » I never mentioned one day a week in my post . I was answering a poster who asked how we planned to get the million kids back. Its not up to us posters to plan it its up to schools managers , staff and unions Forward planning is the key . Surely its up to each individual school to put in an effort with guidlines and suggestions ? Personally I think it should all be in place before they go back and it would be better to wait until August and be ready But it takes effort and input and work
Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » Without specific health advice on the measures required to open, schools have no parameters within which to plan. There is zero point making plans to accommodate half of all students in a day, if the health advice then necessitates accommodation of only one year group per day. The two scenarios are poles apart in terms of physical space, furniture arrangement, teaching allocation, lunch facilities, toilet facilities, cleaning requirements, transport arrangements, plans to accommodate all of one family group at the same time, arrangements for remote teaching the at-home group. Without basic guidelines on safety precautions required, an infinite number of plans would be required It's a ludicrous suggestion.
iamwhoiam wrote: » The million are not all in one school Each school should be right now trying to figure it out for their own situation . Instead of finding obstacles try finding solutions
khalessi wrote: » Regardless, what plan do you have for reopening them for over a million students? I didnt expect them to be closed forever
Long_Wave wrote: » Schools should be opened tommorow imo. The whole idea is to stop the spread so that hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed at once but the hospitals seem to be empy at the moment with the vast majority of covid 19 cases within the 4 walls of nursing homes.
Long_Wave wrote: » I don't know if you aware of this, but the schools were never closed to stop the children or yourself from getting covid 19 ever, whether it's tommorow or September 2021 there is no getting away from it.
khalessi wrote: » How do you plan to open the schools safely for over 1 million students?
iguana wrote: » Children don't appear to spread it though. There has been contact tracing done on children who tested positive and not one of their contacts became infected by them. It's too early to base policy on early studies but right from the beginning the data was suggesting that children are not spreaders of Covid and as more data is gathered this is increasingly looking to be true. Most children are infected by adults in the home and do not spread themselves. My feeling is that schools should remain closed for another few weeks/months and this should be studied further. Then if the evidence keeps pointing to children not being spreaders schools should be opened in as normal away as possible for the children with the biggest changes that are made being ones to stop school staff and parents spreading the virus.
Supercell wrote: » Maybe staggered starts and staggered finishes?
iguana wrote: » Children don't appear to spread it though. There has been contact tracing done on children who tested positive and not one of their contacts became infected by them. <> Then if the evidence keeps pointing to children not being spreaders schools should be opened in as normal away as possible for the children with the biggest changes that are made being ones to stop school staff and parents spreading the virus.
Ray Donovan wrote: » If an 8 year old picks it up and brings it to school it will be deadly to A LOT of people's grandparents. I think that is the crux of the matter really.
Ray Donovan wrote: » They won't!!
khalessi wrote: » Either causes mental distress as children will be separaed from their grandparents and vice versa, an important relationship to a lot of children, and the schools closed means they will miss their friends. It is a tough decision either way Eventually the schools will reopen whether in June or September, hopefully the Dept of Ed will have some tangible plan apart from leaving it locally to teachers to organise. That is the biggest worry
Eventually the schools will reopen whether in June or September, hopefully the Dept of Ed will have some tangible plan apart from leaving it locally to teachers to organise. That is the biggest worry
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » So our choices here are do we keep schools closed or do we cocoon grandparents until there's a better option?
trapp wrote: » Despite the evidence I can think of a few posters who will still insist the virus is deadly to children.
Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: » Deaths by age group in Ireland from Covid-19: none below the age of 20 20 to 30 - fewer than five 30 to 40 - fewer than five 40 to 49 - 12 deaths 50 to 59 - 29 deaths 60 to 69 - 53 deaths 70 plus - 667 deaths From Fergal Bowers
NelRom wrote: » Sports and other hobbies shutting down is also a proble, but you can practice football, hurley, music most homes other than apartments. Keeping the structure of these things in place is important for mental health.
Deleted User wrote: » Children have died my "poor friend".
BanditLuke wrote: » Children are spreaders and children have died, my poor friend.
