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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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Continuation of the "Relaxation of restrictions" from here.

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GazzaL

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

When and if it is reasonably safe to do so. Clearly we are not anywhere near that point now.

Clearly we are, look at the statistics.

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Utopia Parkway wrote: »

June bank holiday is just over 3 weeks after May 5. If they extend again after May 5 it would probably be wise not to relax restrictions just before the June bank holiday.

Class, lets lose 3 bank holidays. Life is great.

If they're going to do that I'd like to see them at least attempt to move the bank holiday to later in the year.

Cork Boy 53

GazzaL wrote: »

There are lots more people out walking with friends and neighbours, lots more people working, lots more people just out and about in general. I'd say (I hope) the latest snippets from the Government are just to be seen to be saying the right things, but they know we need to get the country back up and running.

When and if it is reasonably safe to do so. Clearly we are not anywhere near that point now.

begbysback

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Luckily we don't riot or protest in Ireland, so if further restrictions are deemed necessary by the experts, the vast majority will do their best to abide, apart from the usual suspects, travellers, people in the rougher estates etc.

Would have to disagree, further restrictions may put livelihoods in jeopardy, if people are faced with losing jobs/homes then even the most subdued individuals would soon change their behavior.

Utopia Parkway

fr336 wrote: »

Despite my own reservations, I predict Ireland will extend the current lockdown by 2 weeks next time and then gradually ease things week by week. Have no idea what we in the UK will do as the situation here is pretty shocking compared to what people anticipated.

June bank holiday is just over 3 weeks after May 5. If they extend again after May 5 it would probably be wise not to relax restrictions just before the June bank holiday.

Thelonious Monk

begbysback wrote: »

You could easily predict a riot if further restrictions are imposed, though, if you’ve been following the reports and have the ability to arrive at a sensible and logical conclusion, then you would have noticed that there is zero chance of further restrictions, and a certainty that they will be eased.

Luckily we don't riot or protest in Ireland, so if further restrictions are deemed necessary by the experts, the vast majority will do their best to abide, apart from the usual suspects, travellers, people in the rougher estates etc.

alwald

fr336 wrote: »

Despite my own reservations, I predict Ireland will extend the current lockdown by 2 weeks next time and then gradually ease things week by week. Have no idea what we in the UK will do as the situation here is pretty shocking compared to what people anticipated.

It is possible and I try not to forecast anymore myself because the figures (new cases/deaths/ ICU...) are so unpredictable.

I am reviewing the situation day by day and I am prepared for all eventualities which can be essentially summarised into 3 main categories for me:

1 - Decrease of most key figures: Lifting some restrictions but no major changes
2 - Increase of most key figures: Extension of the restrictions by X weeks
3 - No changes of most key figures: Allowing some businesses to open (construction, large DIY shops...) but no changes to other restrictions.

timmy_mallet

fr336 wrote: »

Despite my own reservations, I predict Ireland will extend the current lockdown by 2 weeks next time and then gradually ease things week by week. Have no idea what we in the UK will do as the situation here is pretty shocking compared to what people anticipated.

I predict... a riot. Etc.

fr336

Despite my own reservations, I predict Ireland will extend the current lockdown by 2 weeks next time and then gradually ease things week by week. Have no idea what we in the UK will do as the situation here is pretty shocking compared to what people anticipated.

stephenjmcd

rovers_runner wrote: »

Never said it was a disaster. I welcome it.
Just that the powers that be will have to admit its over come the weekend.

I think where they messed up slightly was announcing 3 weeks straight away, it's a long time. If they had of brought it up to say this week and then said look we need to go for another 2 weeks here is your progress then maybe fatigue might not be such an issue.

Realistically though everyone knew they wouldn't reopen anything before a may bank holiday

Cork Boy 53

thelad95 wrote: »

They are not, some doing delivery online but stores aren't open to public walk ins.

Not true. There are 2 in my nearest town which are open to the general public since last week. There are limits on the numbers of people allowed in at a time but they have opened their doors.

begbysback

I am me123 wrote: »

So given the information Leo Varadkar announced on Prime Time, is there a chance that restrictions will change (I'm not going to use 'be relaxed' because I don't know for sure).

So do y'all think that the lockdown will continue after May 5th or will it just be more restrictions?

You could easily predict a riot if further restrictions are imposed, though, if you’ve been following the reports and have the ability to arrive at a sensible and logical conclusion, then you would have noticed that there is zero chance of further restrictions, and a certainty that they will be eased.

begbysback

rovers_runner wrote: »

Driving home there from work it was noticeable how relaxed it has become.
The lockdown is over folks, good effort while it lasted.
The floodgates will open this weekend.

It has already been acknowledged by Dr Holohan that when they asked that the public to social distance and isolate, the public were already ahead of them and had began to do so. Same goes for the relaxation of those self imposed limits, they will inevitably be directed by the public themselves, rightly so.

Cork Boy 53

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Garden Centres and Hardware DIY stores are open

Some are. Not all.

fr336

Strumms wrote: »

Yes I’d rather try keep the tide out with a fork or indeed anything available rather than this businessman mantra of “yep, be terrible, but sure isn’t that the way NEXT ! “

We WILL have a lot of sickness but minimizing the casualties is the way forward. If in turn that minimizes profits for businesses I can live with that as it keeps people living.

I thought these self confessed wealth creators and business geniuses would have no problem adjusting to the new normal? Clearly not, they can only cope in a low regulation short termist chaotic business environment!

Balf

fr336 wrote: »

The scientists, economists and even some politicians of the world held back by the short termism and lazy intellectualism of the majority.

The short termism is inflicting long term damage on the whole population, to avoid a short term healthcare problem.

And the lazy intellectualism of the majority supports that approach, thus far.

JP Liz V1

Coop Stores are open

I am me123

So given the information Leo Varadkar announced on Prime Time, is there a chance that restrictions will change (I'm not going to use 'be relaxed' because I don't know for sure).

So do y'all think that the lockdown will continue after May 5th or will it just be more restrictions?

fr336

JoeA3 wrote: »

We have glorious weather. After 6 months of endless rain. Of course people are out. The fresh air and warm weather does wonders for your mental health and well being. Some people here should try it, you might enjoy it.

Do it every day myself. Lovely sunny walks. Doesn't mean I want people crammed into offices and public transport again during the week and crammed into shopping centres at the weekend.

fr336

eddie73 wrote: »

Unfortunately we have to go through a lot of sickness and that is just the way it is.

God I hate that phrase "it's just the way it is". It's why the progress of humanity is so much slower than it has to be. The scientists, economists and even some politicians of the world held back by the short termism and lazy intellectualism of the majority. I can't see how just going straight back to the way things were is a strategy. There needs to be innovative thinking on every level to stop spread. Western countries could start with having basic PPE to keep their populations safe, which is supposedly the number 1 task of the state.

Stateofyou

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Garden Centres and Hardware DIY stores are open

News to me, though some garden centres I'm aware are delivering.

rovers_runner

aidoh wrote: »

What makes you think a disaster is looming Rovers? Were people crawling on top of each other dribbling snots all over the place?

Or did you simply happen to see people out strolling and enjoying the bright evening?

I've been seeing people out every day since the restrictions came into place but I've yet to see anyone not observing physical distancing. Those who are close to each other are presumably from the same household.

How many times does this point have to be argued over in this bleeding thread!?

Never said it was a disaster. I welcome it.
Just that the powers that be will have to admit its over come the weekend.

thelad95

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Garden Centres and Hardware DIY stores are open

They are not, some doing delivery online but stores aren't open to public walk ins.

Strumms

JoeA3 wrote: »

We have glorious weather. After 6 months of endless rain. Of course people are out. The fresh air and warm weather does wonders for your mental health and well being. Some people here should try it, you might enjoy it.

Totally, no harm in it at all, it’s positive once everyone keeps sensible and to the regs.

Gregor Samsa

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Not sure what part of the country your in, road stats are easily checked on TII website and for the major road networks they're no busier than the last few weeks

Irish Times: “Traffic numbers on the State’s main roads rise almost 8%”

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/traffic-numbers-on-the-state-s-main-roads-rise-almost-8-1.4235228

Strumms

alwald wrote: »

I completely disagree with this statement and I wouldn't encourage the idea that many of us have to get sick. We should try to avoid any disease/virus not the other way around.

Totally, that’s the most ridiculous and downright greedy thing I’ve seen.

JP Liz V1

road_high wrote: »

DIY stores not happy- dead right too to speak up for themselves-
https://twitter.com/shanebeattynews/status/1252703395015778311?s=21

Garden Centres and Hardware DIY stores are open

JoeA3

We have glorious weather. After 6 months of endless rain. Of course people are out. The fresh air and warm weather does wonders for your mental health and well being. Some people here should try it, you might enjoy it.

stephenjmcd

rovers_runner wrote: »

Driving home there from work it was noticeable how relaxed it has become.
The lockdown is over folks, good effort while it lasted.
The floodgates will open this weekend.

Not sure what part of the country your in, road stats are easily checked on TII website and for the major road networks they're no busier than the last few weeks.

Anyone in my area who's out walking that I've seen is within a family group and adhering to social distancing.

Even if more people are out if they're within their family group and social distancing what's the issue

aidoh

rovers_runner wrote: »

Driving home there from work it was noticeable how relaxed it has become.
The lockdown is over folks, good effort while it lasted.
The floodgates will open this weekend.

What makes you think a disaster is looming Rovers? Were people crawling on top of each other dribbling snots all over the place?

Or did you simply happen to see people out strolling and enjoying the bright evening?

I've been seeing people out every day since the restrictions came into place but I've yet to see anyone not observing physical distancing. Those who are close to each other are presumably from the same household.

How many times does this point have to be argued over in this bleeding thread!?