easypazz wrote: » Nobody is suggesting pubs in May, at least not seriously. Middle of June for a phased reopening is more likely, assuming numbers of new cases stay where they need to be by then.
drunkmonkey wrote: » Let the pubs with beer gardens open. Keep the benches apart. Every pup closed for years isn't any kind of solution. Discrimination is going to be key, if your pub can't keep people apart well then you can't open.
JRant wrote: » You'll have to explain to me then how this is a fair minded virus then, as you described it.
Breezin wrote: » But it kinda sounds like you do.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » In fairness, what were the Garda supposed to do? They shouldn't have been allowed come here in the first place, British police should have gotten to them before they were getting on ferries. The Garda would have had nowhere to send them, it's a bloody convoy.You can't really apply normal rules to these people.
ZX7R wrote: » We will follow Germany's relaxing of restrictions. As will most EU members.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Dr Catherine Motherway on Sean O Rourke on RTE Radio 1 now saying she expects very limited easing of the restrictions from 5th May and that she is of the opinion that there will be continuous cycles of lockdowns and partial easing until such time as a vaccine is developed.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » How?
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Dr Motherway doesn`t agree with your viewpoint.
Breezin wrote: » Oh, just what you said, the way you said it, and the sneakily implied meaning. It was a short enough post. Don't you remember?
polesheep wrote: » That doctor may be excellent at running an ICU, but she has been almost hysterical since this began and should not be anywhere near decision making regarding restrictions.
drunkmonkey wrote: » I'm not saying all pubs only places with the outdoor space to accommodate it, the same for restraunts, cafes etc. Only outside Dublin and adjoining counties though.
polesheep wrote: » We most certainly can and should apply normal rules to every person in the state. Travellers should not get to choose which rules will apply to them.
[Deleted User] wrote: » The imperial college London envoy to the WHO tweeted on Saturday that there is a chance that a vaccine might never be developed. When supposed experts differ so widely in their views re. availability and efficacy of a vaccine, then it seems reckless to base any plan around waiting for one
facehugger99 wrote: » Give someone a hammer and all their problems start to look like nails. We have given these unelected virologists the ultimate hammer and they have proceed to wreck the economy with it. It is a breathtaking dereliction of duty from our Government. It has been a spineless response by Ministers more concerned with their 'likes' on social-media than with providing leadership and making tough decisions. Kite-flying has replaced strategy.
Augeo wrote: » Apologies, I must have picked this chap up wrong.........
drunkmonkey wrote: » Beer gardens should open, pubs weren't the cause of the spread. Health workers should keep away from them and their family members.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Going by her comments on the SOR programme she is more hopeful rather than confident.
easypazz wrote: » Where does he say May?
Professor Moriarty wrote: » I can't put it any simpler so sorry if you don't understand the post.
JRant wrote: » Oh I understand that post alright. It wasn't funny or clever.
GottaGetGatt wrote: » Wouldn’t say she was hysterical. I remember her first interview. She was clear and concise in what she was saying, she had first hand experience of working with the virus and knew the impact it would have on ICU’s if the public didn’t adhere to the restrictions. It was certainly a wake up call to a lot of people to the seriousness of the virus.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » What was the implied meaning? You're not very good at explaining yourself.
It's not that you'd wish the infection on dumbass people attending parties or dumbass people attending funerals, or on their relatives. But to be fair to Covid-19, it usually attacks the selfish and the stupid or their relatives. So, in a way, it's quite fair-minded as viruses go.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » So what could the Garda have done if they stopped this convoy at a road check? Where do they tell them to go or what to do? I have no idea.
Augeo wrote: » We'll be back to 70% normality well before there's a vaccine. Most workplaces will be open again over May and June. Hospitality and Tourist stuff, well I reckon 2020 might be a right off. Local tourism only I reckon hopefully.
polesheep wrote: » One of her first appearances was on Prime Time and she was very close to hysterical. Anyway, it wasn't my intention to make comment on Dr Motherway, I'm sure she is a very fine and well respected physician, I just don't think that people like her should allow themselves to be used by the media to comment on things that are outside of their competence.
Breezin wrote: » It's pretty futile to spell out further what is already quite clear. Read it again for yourself. Do you not think it's sanctimonious and judgemental and rather relishing the punishment in store for the 'dumbass, dumbass (twice), selfish, stupid', and their relatives?
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » What evidence do you have for that? To take one example remember the Temple Bar carry on the weekend before the pubs were closed? I would think they very much played a large part in spreading the virus.
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