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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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cloudatlas

polesheep wrote: »

One of her first appearances was on Prime Time and she was very close to hysterical. Anyway, it wasn't my intention to make comment on Dr Motherway, I'm sure she is a very fine and well respected physician, I just don't think that people like her should allow themselves to be used by the media to comment on things that are outside of their competence.

I saw that appearance, she was fine, gave clear and concise advice, her tone was serious and gave appropriate weight to the situation. She should be praised.

polesheep

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

This pandemic and the restrictions are awful for people with preexisting conditions, elderly people and people with anxiety especially OCD. They would naturally be very frightened about leaving the house.

All true, but I'm also hearing a lot of perfectly healthy people making irrational statements regarding being afraid to get back out.

Mic 1972

in the meantime Ireland surpassed Italy for number of cases per million, we are moving fast

1. Iceland
2. Spain
3. Belgium
4. Switzerland
5. Ireland
6. Italy
7. France
8. Portugal
8. Netherlands
9. UK
10. Germany

Professor Moriarty

polesheep wrote: »

I agree. There seems to be a variation of Stockholm Syndrome taking hold. Rather than rushing out, a lot of people are going to have to be persuaded out.

This pandemic and the restrictions are awful for people with preexisting conditions, elderly people and people with anxiety especially OCD. They would naturally be very frightened about leaving the house.

easypazz

Augeo wrote: »

What would be different if they reopened?

Firstly EVERYBODY is aware of the situation now.

Secondly, remove all high stools from along the bar and allow service area at the bar only.

Thirdly, instruct security to only allow in whatever number of people are permitted under whatever regulations are in place.

Finally people will start going to bars off peak, even if its just for an hour or two on a week night, hence less crowding.

Pubs, restaurants and their customers are entitled to a fair chance to if they can run responsibly.

If its a disaster then change the arrangement.

polesheep

road_high wrote: »

I think she scared people which was probably no harm at the time.

I understand that point of view, but I never felt it was the right thing to do. A poster said, I think yesterday, that his five-year-old was afraid to go outside for a walk as the air was poisoned. I genuinely thought that was the saddest thing I have heard since this began.

Professor Moriarty

Mic 1972 wrote: »

LOL!

The whole point of restricting movement is to avoid people passing the virus to each other and then bring it back into the household and infect the rest of the people

Exactly.

polesheep

road_high wrote: »

I honestly don't think people will be rushing out just becuase the pubs are legally open. Lots of people are genuinely terrified of getting this Virus and will continue their own isolation measures. Also there's not going to be tons of money going around tbh.

I agree. There seems to be a variation of Stockholm Syndrome taking hold. Rather than rushing out, a lot of people are going to have to be persuaded out.

Mic 1972

Akabusi wrote: »

What harm would opening the schools do? The kids would just be going home after school, if they catch it they will only spread it in the household

LOL!

The whole point of restricting movement is to avoid people passing the virus to each other and then bring it back into the household and infect the rest of the people

[Deleted User]

The 10th to 18th April has the German lab results from older tests. We should see the cases/day fall to under 400 this week I expect.

Maybe under 300 before the start of the May bank holiday, we are on a decent footing to ease restrictions but any decent % of fncktards going mad will ruin in.

road_high

polesheep wrote: »

One of her first appearances was on Prime Time and she was very close to hysterical. Anyway, it wasn't my intention to make comment on Dr Motherway, I'm sure she is a very fine and well respected physician, I just don't think that people like her should allow themselves to be used by the media to comment on things that are outside of their competence.

I think she scared people which was probably no harm at the time.

Cyrus

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I didn`t see the Prime Time programme you refer to here but she was anything but hysterical on SOR today. Very calm and measured in her comments.

doesnt make them any more valid especially if her preferred course of action is predicated on a vaccine that may never materialise.

road_high

Augeo wrote: »

What would be different if they reopened?

I honestly don't think people will be rushing out just becuase the pubs are legally open. Lots of people are genuinely terrified of getting this Virus and will continue their own isolation measures. Also there's not going to be tons of money going around tbh.

Cork Boy 53

polesheep wrote: »

One of her first appearances was on Prime Time and she was very close to hysterical. Anyway, it wasn't my intention to make comment on Dr Motherway, I'm sure she is a very fine and well respected physician, I just don't think that people like her should allow themselves to be used by the media to comment on things that are outside of their competence.

I didn`t see the Prime Time programme you refer to here but she was anything but hysterical on SOR today. Very calm and measured in her comments.

[Deleted User]

drunkmonkey wrote: »

......... pubs closed as they couldn't control the crowds.............

What would be different if they reopened?

drunkmonkey

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

What evidence do you have for that? To take one example remember the Temple Bar carry on the weekend before the pubs were closed? I would think they very much played a large part in spreading the virus.

Social media hysteria and a knee jerk reaction from government. There's a lot of media driving hysteria. Again that was Dublin it's not a reflection on the rest of the country, I was in Killarney that night and the pubs closed as they couldn't control the crowds. So there's us down the country showing common sense and we're all locked down because of the dirty auld town.
We can't keep treating Dublin like the rest of the country. 38 dead in Dublin yesterday, 1 in the rest of the country, absolutely unfair to ban travel for people outside the pale.

Professor Moriarty

Breezin wrote: »

It's pretty futile to spell out further what is already quite clear. Read it again for yourself. Do you not think it's sanctimonious and judgemental and rather relishing the punishment in store for the 'dumbass, dumbass (twice), selfish, stupid', and their relatives?

I said I wouldn't wish the infection on anyone. In your own rush to be sanctimonious and judgemental you might have missed that. Do I think people who gather in large groups during a lethal pandemic are dumbasses? Absolutely. Are they selfish and stupid? Absolutely. Having been spread around by the dumbasses, is it fair that the virus should then kill those people and their relatives instead of me an my relatives? Absolutely.

Cyrus

polesheep wrote: »

One of her first appearances was on Prime Time and she was very close to hysterical. Anyway, it wasn't my intention to make comment on Dr Motherway, I'm sure she is a very fine and well respected physician, I just don't think that people like her should allow themselves to be used by the media to comment on things that are outside of their competence.

indeed

people need to realise these doctors are specialists in one field, and anything they offer on another field is just an opinion like anyone elses.

Hooked

Augeo wrote: »

We'll be back to 70% normality well before there's a vaccine. Most workplaces will be open again over May and June.

Hospitality and Tourist stuff, well I reckon 2020 might be a right off.

Local tourism only I reckon hopefully.

THIS!!!

We have to learn to live with this bastard virus.

I'm no more at risk outside the 2km, within my family unit, than I am now... ONCE I adhere to all the current practices.

If I was too take off in my camper for 3 days - I'd be going to the same petrol station and supermarket as I am now - and smart enough to know that I need to practice physical distancing while on-site, same as I would if I went for a small walk with my dogs today.

Theres a LOT we can get back to doing - while still being in a "lockdown" frame of mind!!!

polesheep

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

So what could the Garda have done if they stopped this convoy at a road check? Where do they tell them to go or what to do? I have no idea.

If they cannot send them back then they direct them to a place of the state's choosing and split them up to ensure social distancing. The travellers should not get to decide where they go.

Breezin

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

What was the implied meaning? You're not very good at explaining yourself.

It's pretty futile to spell out further what is already quite clear. Read it again for yourself. Do you not think it's sanctimonious and judgemental and rather relishing the punishment in store for the 'dumbass, dumbass (twice), selfish, stupid', and their relatives?

It's not that you'd wish the infection on dumbass people attending parties or dumbass people attending funerals, or on their relatives. But to be fair to Covid-19, it usually attacks the selfish and the stupid or their relatives. So, in a way, it's quite fair-minded as viruses go.

polesheep

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

Wouldn’t say she was hysterical. I remember her first interview. She was clear and concise in what she was saying, she had first hand experience of working with the virus and knew the impact it would have on ICU’s if the public didn’t adhere to the restrictions. It was certainly a wake up call to a lot of people to the seriousness of the virus.

One of her first appearances was on Prime Time and she was very close to hysterical. Anyway, it wasn't my intention to make comment on Dr Motherway, I'm sure she is a very fine and well respected physician, I just don't think that people like her should allow themselves to be used by the media to comment on things that are outside of their competence.

Akabusi

What harm would opening the schools do? The kids would just be going home after school, if they catch it they will only spread it in the household. There would need to be exceptions of course for any kids with a underlying condition, households with vulnerable people, healthcare workers and retirement home staff.
I'm now off the opinion that we have to learn to live with this thing, as we don't know when or if we'll have a vaccine. This virus is here to stay so we have to let it spread at some point in a controlled as possible manner. Healthy kids and their healthy parents are not going to topple the healthcare system.

Professor Moriarty

JRant wrote: »

Oh I understand that post alright. It wasn't funny or clever.

I suspect you do understand it fully. Which is why I'll leave you to your deliberate misinterpretation.

JRant

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I can't put it any simpler so sorry if you don't understand the post.

Oh I understand that post alright. It wasn't funny or clever.

[Deleted User]

easypazz wrote: »

Where does he say May?

where does he say from mid June?

Cyrus

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Going by her comments on the SOR programme she is more hopeful rather than confident.

like the rest of us,

she doesnt really have a clue if there will be a vaccine or not.

Cork Boy 53

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Beer gardens should open, pubs weren't the cause of the spread. Health workers should keep away from them and their family members.

What evidence do you have for that? To take one example remember the Temple Bar carry on the weekend before the pubs were closed? I would think they very much played a large part in spreading the virus.

easypazz

Augeo wrote: »

Apologies, I must have picked this chap up wrong.........

Where does he say May?

Idbatterim

facehugger99 wrote: »

Give someone a hammer and all their problems start to look like nails.

We have given these unelected virologists the ultimate hammer and they have proceed to wreck the economy with it. It is a breathtaking dereliction of duty from our Government.

It has been a spineless response by Ministers more concerned with their 'likes' on social-media than with providing leadership and making tough decisions. Kite-flying has replaced strategy.

True , and isnt this exactly what has been going g on for years?