Relaxation of restrictions

easypazz wrote: »

They might get away with another week, but would have to set out a clear guarantee as to what will open and when after that.

I’m not so sure. This has been going on since early March. Two months solid of closures and severe restrictions by early May.

Professor Moriarty

JRant wrote: »

Spot on. All the doom and gloom media messages can't be just erased from people's memories. "Stay at home or people will die" will suddenly become "head out but be careful". I know a few grandparents that are bloody terrified at the moment, afraid to leave their own houses in case "it" gets them. Even cowering away from their own grandchildren.
The mental health toll of this will be huge and will still be with us long after this virus has left us.

It is awful for some people. For others, it will have been an opportunity to take a giant step back from their lives and to reassess what is important.

billyhead

When do people think pubs, gyms, barbers/hairdressers would reopen? Will they be some of the last businesses to open again?

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Yes an extension of restrictions will be bad for people's mental health

We will have had 54 days of restrictions up to that point

54 days of not seeing friends, family, those in relationships not living together

It's not easy on people

They might get away with another week, but would have to set out a clear guarantee as to what will open and when after that.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Today's deaths 39,
38 of which are in the east. Granted Dublin has the most people, still only 1 death in the rest of the country.

If you look at the per capital ratio you'd think everywhere is in trouble but does numbers need to be updated. There not showing a live picture.

Would you base much on today's death figure?
Overall Dublin has 50% of the cases as of Friday gone.
I can't see regional easing of restrictions based on any data so far TBH.
I'm fairly unbiased BTW, no kids & still working so I'm largely unaffected by restrictions so far.

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Yes an extension of restrictions will be bad for people's mental health

We will have had 54 days of restrictions up to that point

54 days of not seeing friends, family, those in relationships not living together

It's not easy on people

Officially yes but the restrictions had well started before the official government ones. Business closures and home working have been underway since early March in truth

Mic 1972 wrote: »

490 new cases in a country of 4.9 million people is the equivalent of 6,000 cases in a country of 60 million people (Italy)
Not exactly a low number. It's less than yesterday but still worryingly high

Depends on the nature of the tests though.

We are actively chasing patients, staff and contacts around the known nursing home clusters etc. so maybe hitting all the right people.

drunkmonkey

Mic 1972 wrote: »

490 new cases in a country of 4.9 million people is the equivalent of 6,000 cases in a country of 60 million people (Italy)
Not exactly a low number. It's less than yesterday but still worryingly high

Our average age is way lower than Italy, it can't have the same effect here. We can also contain it a lot quicker due to our size.

JRant

road_high wrote: »

I fear for the mental health of the whole country- it’s a real issue for many, not one I would think needed to be scoffed at or dismissed. We will face a mental health crisis coupled with an economic one

Spot on. All the doom and gloom media messages can't be just erased from people's memories. "Stay at home or people will die" will suddenly become "head out but be careful". I know a few grandparents that are bloody terrified at the moment, afraid to leave their own houses in case "it" gets them. Even cowering away from their own grandchildren.
The mental health toll of this will be huge and will still be with us long after this virus has left us.

Here ya go https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-cavan-worst-affected-county-outside-of-dublin-latest-figures-suggest-1.4232591%3fmode=amp

Augeo wrote: »

Apologies if so.
There was an analysis on boards that suggested otherwise....ill try & find it.

KrustyUCC

BanditLuke wrote: »

I actually fear for the mental health of a couple of the posters here if things don't go their way on the 5th. Some need to take a few days out and relax.

Yes an extension of restrictions will be bad for people's mental health

We will have had 54 days of restrictions up to that point

54 days of not seeing friends, family, those in relationships not living together

It's not easy on people

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Far from it, but exactly how do you think would that be possible to implement?

As another poster said- roadblocks in and out of Dublin. They’re doing it already so just do that and end them elsewhere where they serve no purpose

drunkmonkey

Augeo wrote: »

More people in Dublin so there's more cases..... I imagine it's not a huge outlier per capita TBH.

Today's deaths 39,
38 of which are in the east. Granted Dublin has the most people, still only 1 death in the rest of the country.

If you look at the per capital ratio you'd think everywhere is in trouble but does numbers need to be updated. There not showing a live picture.

Mic 1972

490 new cases in a country of 4.9 million people is the equivalent of 6,000 cases in a country of 60 million people (Italy)
Not exactly a low number. It's less than yesterday but still worryingly high

JRant

facehugger99 wrote: »

I think you'll find the teacher unions will come up with compelling reason why they can't do this.

I can't see why. These are exceptional times and they will have had a couple of months off already. It should be an option IMO.

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

So what do you suggest should be done? Keep the restrictions in place in the East while lifting them in the rest of the country? Good luck if you are expecting that to happen.

There was a plan to segment the country if necessary AFAIK.

In a way they kind of did it with the lockdown, nobody from Dublin travelling to the coast and spreading it etc.

Cork Boy 53

road_high wrote: »

If it’s possible to do it should be done. I assume as a cork man/boy Dublin isn’t the centre of the universe to you?

Far from it, but exactly how do you think would that be possible to implement?

bettyoleary

easypazz wrote: »

I'm good thanks. Roll on May 5th.

Yeah where will you go first with your first weeks wages Covid Arms or the Bat and Pangolin??:rolleyes:

I believe the topic starter is a mathematician....
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058068467

Augeo wrote: »

Apologies if so.
There was an analysis on boards that suggested otherwise....ill try & find it.

I saw a table on social media that have a breakdown on a per capita county population figure. It’s more relevant I think than totals

road_high wrote: »

Think on a per capita basis Dublin is still much higher. Co Westmeath, Wicklow and cavan also well you there I think also

Apologies if so.
There was an analysis on boards that suggested otherwise....ill try & find it.

BanditLuke wrote: »

Indeed.

So I didn't say today. Maybe stop imaging things that aren't there.

You said numbers still very high.

Now you accept they are old numbers, so you don't have actual numbers for today, to claim they are still very high.

Augeo wrote: »

More people in Dublin so there's more cases..... I imagine it's not a huge outlier per capita TBH.

I've no skin in the game.... Am working as normal.

Think on a per capita basis Dublin is still much higher. Co Westmeath, Wicklow and cavan also well up there I think also

Speakerboxx

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Its not going to just die off. Thats not the point of a lock down. The point is to slow the spread to a level where it doesn't overwhelm the hospital system. If you want to wait and stay inside until it has completely passed you'll be waiting a long time.

We all be waiting long time the way its looking.

BanditLuke wrote: »

I actually fear for the mental health of a couple of the posters here if things don't go their way on the 5th. Some need to take a few days out and relax.

I fear for the mental health of the whole country- it’s a real issue for many, not one I would think needed to be scoffed at or dismissed. We will face a mental health crisis coupled with an economic one

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You block the roads out of it. Keep it closed. Cork got it bad at the start but seems to be under control. It's going to have to be done on a regional basis, we can't all wait on Dublin.

More people in Dublin so there's more cases..... I imagine it's not a huge outlier per capita TBH.

I've no skin in the game.... Am working as normal.

alwald

road_high wrote: »

Hardly. Any glimmer of improvement is a massive step forward from where we are now. Bizzare how some people so doggedly hold onto these draconian measures as if they are some kind of holy grail that should be far more severe than as is clinically necessary

It is bizarre how some people get offended and engage in attacks when a poster is in favor of keeping some restrictions. I will also add that it's farcical that some people think that making steps forward means we are finished with this virus :pac:.