nocoverart wrote: » Not an expert on Masks but bought some KN95 Masks on Pigsback, would these be better than Surgical Masks?
Thingymebob wrote: » I just checked our emails to see when we started planning. We placed mask orders on February 1st, along with hand sanitizers and gloves. We brought our chest freezer on 5th, and topped up our panadol stash over the next two weeks. I still felt stupid in mid February, thinking I was wasting money splurging on PPE and a freezer, but now I’m glad. I have mild asthma, two autoimmune conditions and am immunosuppressed. If I get it, I’ll potentially suffer badly.
paleoperson wrote: » Yes, they are the Chinese version of N95 masks. The US used to refuse to accept them, however just in the past day or so they've caved and will now accept the KN95 masks. I bought a 10 pack the other day (I already have lots of masks and I'll only be going out once a week or so), but I'd worry they might increase dramatically in price/fall in stock now. N95 masks are going at crazy prices, 10 times what they used to be?!
nocoverart wrote: » And are they reusable, can you wash them? I'm sorry, I'm a bit naive with all this.
Bob24 wrote: » Btw did you manage to procure your masks recently or you got them before the **** hit the fan? I definitely see in increase in people wearing masks in my area but I though they had de come near impossible to find now - wondering if those people had the mask one or 2 weeks ago and were not using them or if they actually managed to buy them since then (which would be great if people are managing to to that but I was under the impression that it is near impossible).
Thestones wrote: » A friend said she just bought a box of 50 surgical masks in her local pharmacy yesterday, they had just got them back in, paid €75 for 50 which is crazy and I’m suprised the pharmacy sold an entire box to one person, I thought the frontline needed these masks.
Wibbs wrote: » Some pharmacies are being responsible and not price gouging, some are very much not.
cryptocurrency wrote: » Surgical masks were 45 euro for 1000 in January. P3 Masks were about 1.50 each in January. I also got hand sanitizer for 25 euro for 5 liter bottles in January. It was obvious by then this virus was coming our way.
Wibbs wrote: » Outside of a handful of prepper type folks it was anything but "obvious" and any premonitions were far more luck than judgement and only look like prescience in the rear view mirror. With a hint of a gloating I told you so. SARS could have also being "coming our way", ditto for MERS and H7N9, all of which have much higher lethality. Swine flu did come our way and caught the world napping. Hell, as we speak with the Covid19 rampaging through the world yet another strain of avian flu has had an outbreak in China(funny. Not shocked). No reported jump to people yet.
cryptocurrency wrote: » I have been mindful since I caught Swine flu. Horrible experince.
Wibbs wrote: » Oh sure CC, so you were in wary mode already and that's understandable, but it wasn't so obvious at all it would get this crazy.
Wibbs wrote: » Outside of a handful of prepper type folks it was anything but "obvious" and any premonitions were far more luck than judgement and only look like prescience in the rear view mirror. With a hint of a gloating I told you so.
khalessi wrote: » Watching the way it spread in China I thought it was obvious what would happen and when the first cases appeared outside of China I knew it was ineveitalbe and Im not a prepper type but I did have some medical knowledge in how viruses spread so that helped. I can remember mentioning to people I worked with to get masks and they thought I was mad.
cryptocurrency wrote: » I think the lockdown in Wuhan was the canary in the coalmine. I stand by my assesment that western leadership on this whole affair has been woeful.
2u2me wrote: » Markets were already sliding in late January.
Wibbs wrote: » It's been slow to react alright. For a number of reasons. The WHO were about as much use as tits on a bull from early on, taking a softly softly approach, avoiding suggestions of pandemic and suggestions of travel and other restrictions, even though they'd been on the ground in Wuhan and saw the lockdowns there. Local health authorities like the HSE took their lead from the WHO. Hell, they still are with regard to the utility of masks, even though when the WHO teams showed up in Wuhan about the first thing the locals said to them was "why the hell aren't you wearing masks FFS"(translation from Mandarin). If the WHO came out tomorrow and advised wearing a condom on your nose and a feather in your bum was protective the HSE would be repeating it in their daily reports. Watch how quickly they pull an about face over masks when the missive comes as it surely will. Then we have historical and cultural differences. The Far East has dealt with other outbreaks in that neck of the woods for years. SARS and the various flu strains, so had local expertise in authority and even among the general populace as far as epidemic hygiene is concerned. Then you have the cultures themselves. Much more community based, not as individualistic, more likely to follow authority, more compliant to instruction. In many ways the opposite to American culture. Ireland has done OK so far, but the government and HSE were slow enough to react. It was only a final hours thing to stop the Patrick's day parades, they were slow on pubs and cafes too and zero checks on returning or incoming flights from known hotspots and obviously potential hotspots like Cheltenham. We're doing OK so far as much because of our population density and habitation type as anything else. If we lived in shared dwellings as a culture our numbers would be much much higher. Markets slide all the time, for all sorts of reasons. They also climb, again for all sorts of reasons. Linking the market to a premonition of pandemic is a fools errant and again only seem prescient in hindsight. For a start they rallied in February.
Mr.S wrote: » So am I right in saying if you are going to the shops etc, fabric masks are suitable and you don't need to worry about sourcing medical grade masks? If so - any one with a link to a store?! I don't trust myself with DIY
cryptocurrency wrote: » I think blaming WHO is the main plan for a get out of jail card for the western governments
YFlyer wrote: » Sunday Business Post are saying 2/5 of the PPE that arrived last week from China are not fit for purpose.
Thingymebob wrote: » I heard that earlier in the week too.
Mr.S wrote: » The issue isn't the quality in this case.
