smelly sock wrote: » If they stop the spread then why arent govt supplying them to households or why dont they legislate to enforce the wearing of them during thos crisis.
STB. wrote: » 1 infects 4 which then rises exponentially. We have 40,000 cases backlogged for the past week or so. Its the only solution. Otherwise it will run rampant and overwhelm our limited health system. And when that happens, the doctors have to decide who gets the ventilators and who does not. That means there will a cut off point and people are morphined to death to ease the fact that they cannot breathe, in isolation, with no family members present. I hope that underlines the gravity.
STB. wrote: » 1 infects 4 which then rises exponentially. We have 40,000 cases backlogged for the past week or so. Its the only solution. Otherwise it will run rampant and overwhelm our limited health system. And when that happens, the doctors have to decide who gets the ventilators and who does not. That means there will a age/suitability cut off point and people are morphined to death to ease the fact that they cannot breathe, in isolation, with no family members present. I hope that underlines the gravity.
STB. wrote: » There are NO EXPERTS. We can only learn from the mistakes of other countries. People might get a fuzzy feeling about it'll all be grand. Wait a few weeks, there will be no positives if this gets out of the control of our limited health system. The simple matter is we don't have a handle on our exact numbers of infections due to a problem with the scale of testing and lab work required. That is not a good start.
granturismo wrote: » The 10-15 minute rule was debunked and then reaffirmed by one of TCD's immunologists rolled out on TV 2 weeks ago. I think he may have got a wrap on the knuckles for saying transfer can take much less than 10 minutes. Potentially all it takes is 1 viral particle which could be inhaled within seconds of close proximity or transfer from a surface. I went to the Curragh yesterday and have never seen so many people there. I still went for a walk and managed to stay 10m away from other people. I agree with your 2nd paragraph.
aido79 wrote: » How long is a lockdown really practical for? I don't think it's the magic solution that a lot of people are hoping for. This all begun in Ireland and every other country with one case. If there is still one unknown infected person after the lockdown then the whole thing starts again. More testing and people following proper social distancing protocols would be a more effective strategy longterm in my opinion.
CaoinDory wrote: » When I went out to do a supply run there was NO social distancing. People were still right behind me when I was queueing at the till. It's great to here that there are some places it's being adhered to but there are definitely places that it is not. That is the problem.
STB. wrote: » I am in Wexford. Shopping centre car parks full over weekend. McDonald's queues all over the shop. I have seen the pictures of Wicklow, Waterford, Dublin etc over the weeknd with people seriously taking the píss. The inconvenience of staying in all too much sadly. Sounds a lot like what was happening in Italy not 2 weeks ago. The Doctor's coming out openly about the hard decisions they were making about who lives and dies and the scale of the problem to people who refused to take social distancing seriously.https://nypost.com/2020/03/10/italian-doctor-at-heart-of-illness-shares-chilling-coronavirus-thoughts/ They left it too late. They are open about the root cause. They are are asking other countries not to fall into the same trap. Hopeless my backside. People will have to be inconvenienced to save as many as possible.
DeanAustin wrote: » If my understanding is correct - you get this virus by spending 10-15 mins within two metres or so of someone who is infected. I went to the beach yesterday. Everyone on that beach, without fail, stayed at least two metres away from everyone else bar their immediate group (which were mainly their families). Yet, some posters seem to think this is dangerous. On the few occasions I have ventured out, social distancing has been observed pretty much without fail. Am I missing something?
aido79 wrote: » More testing and people following proper social distancing protocols would be a more effective strategy longterm in my opinion.
Yakult wrote: » Judging by yesterday, I would disagree. Too many people are ignorant and obviously didn't/don't listen. Well unless they work in the few businesses that are remaining open (for necessities), we will have to accept what we are given. Hopefully bills can be frozen in the mean time to leviate a lot of worries people have. The reality is that they probably have no where to work and for the forseeable future too. So lock down and we get this curbed faster, so people can get back to work faster and life can resume again.
Yakult wrote: » Judging by yesterday, I would disagree. Too many people are ignorant and obviously didn't/don't listen.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Hmmmm....who to listen to a randomer ranting on Boards, or the expert group on public health. It's a tough call but seeing as Karen on FB knows f**k all I'll take my chance and listen to the expert advice.
CaoinDory wrote: » I'm a firm believer that social distancing is enough to get rid of this thing...
smelly sock wrote: » The reality is a family living on the breadline wont lockdown for long if they cant afford too. A balance is needed.
smelly sock wrote: » I dont think it should be understated either but peoppe cant afford to feed kids and pay bills on 203 a week. I know ill get hit with the coronavirus will kill people and people will get sick which is fair enough and a valid point. But the practicalities of life still exist for most. The reality is a family living on the breadline wont lockdown for long if they cant afford too. A balance is needed.
smelly sock wrote: » Mad alarmist statement based only on your preference and opinion. The CMO has said that the data available and scientific/ medical expertise points to not yet needing a full lockdown. That'll do for me.
realdanbreen wrote: » Fair play to you for doing that. Seems like he's taking my advice and announcing it tomorrow!
solidasarock wrote: » Ill let Leo know realdanbreen on Boards really wants a shutdown.
realdanbreen wrote: » Not in 1 week 2 weeks whatever, NOW! While most people are adhering to the health advice you cannot expect the gobshytes like those clowns packing beaches and parks to obey unless they are forced to. Shutdown NOW. Anyone that agrees stick your name below.
Muahahaha wrote: » Agreed, we should err on the side of caution and be doubling down right now. Only four deaths here so far but if in 2 or 3 weeks it is 50 or 60 people will look back and recognise that we should have locked down earlier. Better to be safe than sorry.
SuperRabbit wrote: » But really we should do a total shut down. If we overshoot the mark we can reopen things in 2 weeks, and it will really force businesses to figure out this work-from-home thing NOW rather than later. I think some will put it off till they have to.
AllGunsBlazing wrote: » Maybe where you live it is but not where I am.
chicorytip wrote: » Italy has a population of fifty million so it must be difficult for the authorities to rigidly enforce compliance across the board. It's a hopeless task really even in a small country like ours. The number of new cases of infection in Italy has not dropped significantly as a result of lockdown measures being introduced.
STB. wrote: » No it doesn't. It proves that it was too late. The PM advised people to go out as normal, then changed their minds as numbered multiplied, hemmed and hawed about it, then locked it down when people were taking the píss and not taking it seriously. This is already happening. Shopping centres have responsibilities as well.
