FrancieBrady wrote: » They all did this. A lot. :rolleyes:
McMurphy wrote: » Is there a leadership coup stirring within FG? I see the Indo are running with a headline hinting at one.
He described Sinn Féin's finance spokesperson Pearse Doherty as a good debater, but also called him "arrogant" and "overconfident". "He's not cautious enough for finance," he said. Mr Noonan questioned Sinn Féin's suitability for office, citing how former Sinn Féin finance minister in Stormont Máirtín Ó Muilleoir sought permission from an unelected party member to sign off on a controversial renewable energy scheme in the North. "He was looking for permission to make a decision, and he was the finance minister. Do you think I was ringing some 5'8 in west Limerick to get permission to do things in the budget?" he asked.
piplip87 wrote: » The IRA is not ancient history though. Pearse MC Cauley got a hero's welcome from SF when released in 2009.
Sir Oxman wrote: » I thought Thursday's is for Labour, SD, Green, SPBP and Aontu?
gormdubhgorm wrote: » As one of the neutral analysts put in after the debate Mary Lou obfuscated and waffled. .
C__MC wrote: » I think Thursdays debate will be hugely interesting Fianna Fail have a weak front bench behind micheal martin Coveney and Doherty are very strong politicians in my view, so they really have a chance to enhance what their party is offering
Faugheen wrote: » To say ‘the RA weren’t involved because I spoke to them and they told me they werent’ - well can you tell the PSNI or the Gardai who you spoke to so they can decide for themselves?
In May, the Independent Monitoring Commission found that the IRA organisation did not kill Paul Quinn although "local members or former members" of the republican group were involved in his murder.
Jim Root wrote: » My untainted observations before I read the thread as a party agnostic voter - any idea's I may have had of throwing a bone to SF sre totally over now due to ML being caught out on homelessness in the North figures, Paul Quinn and nonsensical climate change policy. She blew it and would have been better off not attending at all. she didn't come across as trustworthy. -Leo, albeit uncomfortable, was very well briefed, remained statesmanlike and delivered some classic rebuttals - the John Delaney line and Mary Lou regretting joining FF were fantastic. He is clearly a weak leader though and was rightly pulled up on the various FG messers like Bailey running rings around him. -Micheal, clearly a skilled and able politician but struck me as stale & with too much blood on his hands for the failures of the past. This "for the good of the nation" rhetoric justifying maintaining the S&C deal is a nonesense and he knows it. So no clear winner, but Mary Lou definitely came out the worst. ps. I think it's outrageous that Miriam was allowed to be in the hotseat given her brother is running for FF.
Hannibal_Smith wrote: » Wow, I was clearly watching something else. I thought Mary Lou came off well. With the exception of the mansplaining comment. I winced at that. No, she didnt go into detail. SF never really do. But it was the same from the other two, you did nothing for 9 years - we were cleaning up after you back and forth. At the end of the day FG and FF have made a mess of things. And the only thing they united on last night was bashing Mary Lou.
piplip87 wrote: » The IRA is not ancient history though. Pearse MC Cauley got a hero's welcome from SF when released in 2009. This is a guy who was part of a gang that murdered a member of the Gardai. The woman who he started a relationship with, married and had kids with, while he was in prison is now looking to become a lawmaker...... When the IRA is brought up its ancient history even though SF campaigned for his release at the same time as the economic crash which isn't ancient history ? Hypocrisy all over SF and the electorate will wake up to this come next Saturday and Shinnerbots will be on here/Facebook screaming about media bias, screaming about the government while sitting in Thier council houses, claiming the dole screaming about how the government does nothing for them even though it's raring Thier kid for them.....
Deleted User wrote: » On paper I'm well paid and so, not eligible for the help to buy scheme. In reality, after rent and bills I've a lean couple of weeks ahead of me until payday when the cycle can begin again.
Edgware wrote: » Correction. Ex M.E.P. Another bluffer found out and dealt with by the electorate
FrancieBrady wrote: » Paul Quinn is in the debate because an RTE presenter took umbrage at a from SF MEP saying exactly that (Lynn Boylan)
realdanbreen wrote: » SF said something similar after Jerry McCabe and Ben O'Sullivan were riddled with bullets in Adare. And that was after first saying the Provos were not involved.
facehugger99 wrote: » Lol - Still laughing at you calling it "a draw". If ever a clearer sign was needed that MLM had her arse handed to her.
FrancieBrady wrote: » . They said, some of those involved were members of the IRA but it had no sanction at an organisational level. .
FrancieBrady wrote: » The 'IRA' were not involved in Paul Quinn's murder as an organisation. FACT, no whatabout's. The independent international agency tasked to monitor such things The IMC, said so clearly at the time. They said, some of those involved were members of the IRA but it had no sanction at an organisational level. They also said that it was a local dispute about smuggling.
Mortelaro wrote: » Why didn't MLM use that tack last night or on Dobson? You know why Because it wouldn't wash
Necro wrote: » Francie you seem incredibly rattled today, no smilies or anything in your posts. I mean can you just admit that Mary Lou's stumble over the SCC and Paul Quinn were gaffes instead of moving the goalposts everytime someone brings it up
smurgen wrote: » It's incredible insensitive to feign outstrage at certain victims and not others. Seems like FG can celebrate certain murderers as long as the victim is ordinary Irish folk.
FrancieBrady wrote: This is the own goal they have been scoring all along. Everybody knew and many here, including myself, predicted they would find a victim 'du jour' this week. And they did. If it wasn't Paul Quinn to be exploited it would have been somebody else off the list.
Strawberry Milkshake wrote: » Just done a quick calculation. If you earn over 30,000 that will be 656 back in your pocket. What I haven’t seen though is what the rate will be after that 30,000. It’s currently 4.5% up to income of 70,000.
