J Mysterio wrote: » That is just totally surreal.
GM228 wrote: » That was the opinion of the French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian in the French Parliament earlier today (not the French president) before the events in the HoC and before Tusk's recommendation.https://twitter.com/LCP/status/1186652125813792769?s=19
Enzokk wrote: » This is an interesting tweet,https://twitter.com/TerryReintke/status/1186594060234039302?s=20 So the EU will not hasten the UK in making a decision, it is up to the PM to get his deal through. As for the votes tonight, Johnson and No.10 has again been shown up and the likes of Kuenssberg that parroted the news that if they would lose the vote program motion they would pull the bill has been shown up for the propaganda machines they are being used for. As for No.10 claiming this was a vote for his deal, it is this kind of dishonesty that makes my blood boil. Yes there were votes to just get it done but others were to get it to the stage where they could add amendments to the bill as well. It is dishonest, in fact it is lying, to claim this is a vote for his deal. But what do you expect of a liar and cheat running the country. I am really concerned for the UK, even if we are relatively shielded from the effect of Brexit with the deal we have agreed, but the ordinary person who has been led astray by liars who will suffer the most. It is not fair that these people should suffer because MPs are too freaking lazy to read the bill or are tired of Brexit. They should not suffer because the millionaires in government will be fine and their friends will make a killing from deregulation. At the end of the day we will suffer as well if the UK suffers long term. They are still an important partner of ours and we should want to see them as strong as possible, but they are making it very hard to root for them to turn this doomed ship around.
briany wrote: You know what they say - if you let bullies know they're getting to you, they'll only get worse. If Farage senses he can annoy EU leaders into cutting the cord, he's only going to act more degenerate.
liamtech wrote: » SKy saying France only supports short technical extension, perhaps even only a few days - not supporting longer extension
eagle eye wrote: » There are lots of deservedly unkind things said about Johnson and Farage but the word degenerate should never be used. Just because he wants to leave the EU doesn't make the man a degenerate. Just because he tells lies like pretty much every other politician doesn't make him a degenerate either. I hope his career ends shortly, no harm on saying things like that but let's keep it real.
Danzy wrote: » Who is Terry Reinkte in the greater scheme of things. Boris Johnson will be congratulated tomorrow by Brussels for this first vote. What type or duration of extension he needs will be accommodated.
Danzy wrote: » They are saying that to put pressure on MPs to get it over the line as quickly as possible.
prawnsambo wrote: » A bills stages through the Houses: HoC 1st reading 2nd reading Committee stage Report stage 3rd reading HoL 1st reading 2nd reading Committee stage Report stage 3rd reading Royal Assent.
Enzokk wrote: » Yeah, France will kick up a fuss about an extension but like with the May extensions they will agree to it reluctantly.
joe40 wrote: » I thought I had a handle on this Brexit but must admit now I'm confused and apologies if this stupid but is this where we are now? The deal has been passed but not the timetable. MPs have supported the deal but then want to add amendment s which will change the deal they have supported. So they're not really supporting the deal. Is that what is happening now or have I got it all wrong?
is_that_so wrote: » They voted for the second stage, so it can go forward for amendment and debate but they rejected the 3 day timetable. For now yes it is true they are supporting the deal but we can expect amendments. The next step will probably be Boris consulting the EU on an extension so they can debate and amend and so he can blame the EU for Britain not leaving next week.
Joe_ Public wrote: » You write that last sentence as if being granted an extension ("i'll die in a ditch before i ask for one") is another great triumph for the glorious leader. I'm not at all convinced to be honest.
FrancieBrady wrote: » According to Newsnight Boris is on the phone tonight to EU telling them that he thinks he can get deal over the line and he only needs a few days extension.
Enzokk wrote: » I don't know but I posted it to provide some balance to the thoughts that the EU was getting tired of the UK and Brexit. This is a contrary view and not the only one that they will give the UK the time it needs to find out what it wants. She also helpfully provided a solution to a yes/no question which the brilliant minds at the UK want to avoid. It is amazing to me that consensus is that a general election that has a multitude of factors determining the result is thought to be the solution to Brexit which has a simple yes/no question at the heart of it.
briany wrote: » What are the likely amendments to the deal, and which have the best chance of actually being tacked on? The 2nd ref is one that's being currently mooted, but when it comes down to it, I don't see that getting the numbers. The independent Conservatives will see to that, I'd say.
Water John wrote: » Once he has the 3 month Flexextension, he'll go for a GE. He won't work with a minority.
is_that_so wrote: » Mostly because Boris looks like he'll win with a majority, thus making it easier to pass anything. This process is like a free shot and one it actually seems, against all odds, that he can make a success. He'll still have an election victory to come one way or another.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » The Tories are on their way to a thumping majority anyway according to the polls.
prawnsambo wrote: » I'm not sure that's a given. Assuming the SNP and the LibDems match their best showings (which they should - give or take), that leaves about 550 seats up for grabs. Of those, another 30 or so will go to NI, independents and Plaid. The Tories need 325 (roughly) to get a majority. Which means Labour will only come out with around the 200 mark. That just isn't likely.
briany wrote: » I'm not really in favour of the UK leaving the EU, but you'd have to say that if the Tories run on a Brexit platform and get a healthy majority, then there must be a majority for Leave among the electorate.
