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Storm Lorenzo Chat Thread.

Oneiric 3

The suggestion was made earlier in the 'Lorenzo' thread to open up a separate thread for general discussion on this potential storm. I think this is a good idea as that thread is now incorporating both technical discussion and more banterish posts, which is making it harder to follow.

It is probably best if we keep the original thread where more technical discussions & charts etc can take place to allow people to have a quicker access to the latest thoughts on the storm, and keep this one for more general chit chat and reports etc.

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SleetAndSnow

Windier now then it was all day yesterday in cork. Sudden gusts.

Hammer Archer

prunudo wrote: »

They don't help but I think a real problem is social media or in particular Facebook. Yesterday I saw people sharing posts from the likes of Dublin Live, Radio Nova, Irish Mirror all mentioning Storm Lorenzo and red warnings in the headline, its not until you dig deeper into the article you see the real albeit sketchy detail.
Then you also have people sharing 2 day old articles from where there was still a possibility it could be worse but people taking it as realtime and fact.
At the end of the day the problem isn't Met Eireann, some of the blame lies with regular and social media but ultimately the fault lays at people who are too lazy to look into the finer details and who lap up the hype from this click bait society that has developed around us.

Dublin Live are absolutely hilarious. During the summer, someone in work informed me that there we were due a dangerous heat wave over the weekend (it was due to be just over 20C). They pointed me towards a Dublin Live headline which stated that "Met Eireann have issued TWO weather warnings". What were the warnings? One was a small craft warning, the other a blight warning.

Due to the uncertainty surrounding it, MÉ were correct in my view to bring up the possibility of severe disruption late last week when we knew it was going to be heading our way. Unfortunately, even though they moderated their stance and their warnings reflected that, the media had already caught hold of the "hurricane" and nothing Met Éireann did could stop them producing clickbait headlines. Met Éireann got it pretty much spot on but they'll likely get blamed for overhyping by the same media outlets that did so solely to get clicks.

dacogawa

RTE using the windy.com ECM wind graphic on gust setting, on their "Lorenzo Special", talk about sensationalism. Someone's head needs to roll for all this (& G. Lee too)

Next time we have a strong low coming into the country that could cause problems, most of the public are not going to take any notice and that is going to cause real problems.

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SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Windier now then it was all day yesterday in cork. Sudden gusts.

Same here in Tipp.

is_that_so

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Dublin Live are absolutely hilarious. During the summer, someone in work informed me that there we were due a dangerous heat wave over the weekend (it was due to be just over 20C). They pointed me towards a Dublin Live headline which stated that "Met Eireann have issued TWO weather warnings". What were the warnings? One was a small craft warning, the other a blight warning.

Due to the uncertainty surrounding it, MÉ were correct in my view to bring up the possibility of severe disruption late last week when we knew it was going to be heading our way. Unfortunately, even though they moderated their stance and their warnings reflected that, the media had already caught hold of the "hurricane" and nothing Met Éireann did could stop them producing clickbait headlines. Met Éireann got it pretty much spot on but they'll likely get blamed for overhyping by the same media outlets that did so solely to get clicks.

They did overdo it on the eventual weather warnings, with large parts of the country not adversely affected nor in the path of the system.

Bacchus

After all the hype generated by the media that had people worked up... here in Cork it was a bit of a wet day for a while. I mean, people at my wife's workplace were asking her should they cancel meetings. Relatives in Dublin were sending us good luck messages yesterday afternoon (as I looked out the window at blue sky peeping through some clouds). T.G. for the boards thread where sensibility prevailed. ME too did well to keep the alerts up to date and as accurate as they could (it's not their fault it was hyped). I get there was a level of uncertainty with different models predicting different outcomes but the likes of RTE, Newstalk, Virgin etc. and the papers were all forecasting violent storms, massive destruction/disruption. I feel for those that were affected but listening to the "aftermath" report this morning it's clear that RTE are still doing their best to dramatize this. It's so obvious they have nothing to go with when the only significant reports are a handful of houses flooded in Donegal and 4000-5000 houses without power. They even sound like their holding out for hope that they're might be more flooding.

Harry Palmr

Carlow weather fella (waves!) was on Pat Kenny's programme speaking sense. It hadn't occurred to me that there is no official flood warning system in place here - his views that local weather impact rather than catchall "yellow/orange/red" warnings over a swath of land make more sense is also sound.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Tazio wrote: »

I was told at work this morning, RTE (national broadcaster) had a 'Prime Time' Special on the storm at 21:30h last night. That must have been awkward to fill time? I must see if I can stream it today for the craic.

And they announced a special Lorenzo update for 7am this morning with a programme dedicated to it at 9am.

What a complete bunch of tossers they are! They had elderly people at their wits end because of their utter incompetence.

I’d say Sharon NiBheolain was up all night in a bunker in RTE as she couldn’t risk going home in a national emergency.

is_that_so

dacogawa wrote: »

RTE using the windy.com ECM wind graphic on gust setting, on their "Lorenzo Special", talk about sensationalism. Someone's head needs to roll for all this (& G. Lee too)

Next time we have a strong low coming into the country that could cause problems, most of the public are not going to take any notice and that is going to cause real problems.

As someone posted above if they make a better effort to spell out the weather forecast, i.e. very wet or very windy and not just blanket it with their colour scheme we might pay attention. Issuing catch-all warnings is just catnip for the media.

Harry Palmr

The Storm Special was over by 9.30 - they had to admit defeat. It wasn't a washout.

CosmicFool

is_that_so wrote: »

Meh, you're as bad as a wine snob! Unless you make it invite only that's what happens on a public forum. Do what any other poster does on a thread littered with dross, skip past it!

It clearly states Technical discussion only in the thread title.

Nemesis

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All time low for the forum.

is_that_so

CosmicFool wrote: »

It clearly states Technical discussion only in the thread title.

Ha, and when did people ever pay attention to that?

TheRiverman

Deleted User wrote: »

Could one expect any less from a gutter rag that lauds the ostentatious lifestyles of Glenda Gilson and Rosanna Davison.

Independent.ie are doing this all year round,watch out for their sensationalism when we get a bit of frost and the temperature is -2.

Hammer Archer

is_that_so wrote: »

They did overdo it on the eventual weather warnings, with large parts of the country not adversely affected nor in the path of the system.

I don't believe that they did. Yellow warnings are generally not unusual and the vast majority of the country had a yellow warning.

Stevieluvsye

TheRiverman wrote: »

Independent.ie are doing this all year round,watch out for their sensationalism when we get a bit of frost and the temperature is -2.

They are turning more and more like the mail

Jpmarn

It seems to be windier just in the last hour than all of yesterday evening and all night. South East of Limerick City where we are status green ATM when we had orange then.

d'Oracle

lleti wrote: »

Government will be happy with RTE pushing the climate change agenda. Makes it easier for them to bring in taxes in the budget. Government will probably cave into their demands for more funds easier now.

Keep bateing that drum, youngfella.

is_that_so

Hammer Archer wrote: »

I don't believe that they did. Yellow warnings are generally not unusual and the vast majority of the country had a yellow warning.

To what end? Of the three it is the most pointless unless you actually get gusts and it reflects some extremely common weather. It effectively says it might be windy today. Someone well upthread suggested adjusting the levels so that it does become more unusual.

easypazz

is_that_so wrote: »

They did overdo it on the eventual weather warnings, with large parts of the country not adversely affected nor in the path of the system.

And lots of the areas in orange got nothing more than a yellow.

They could have backtracked but even on the 6pm news Gerry Murphy was talking it up on the behalf of Met Eireann when the writing was on the wall.

BarryD2

lleti wrote: »

Government will be happy with RTE pushing the climate change agenda. Makes it easier for them to bring in taxes in the budget.

That's about it, gales and winter storms have been arriving in Ireland since the year dot. Some are worse than others and that's about it. The hype though is about softening the public up for a nice hike in fuel prices, which increased tax will not make a blind bit of difference. Maybe they should concentrate themselves on taking fewer flights, spend more time in the Dail and run the country, including providing a wider distribution of local services so that the public don't have to travel as far to get to them.

Laughable this morning to hear the chap in charge of the emergency being asked if the event was over and saying 'oh, we still have YELLOW wind warnings in xyz'. He's supposed to be an expert, and a clear example of scaremongering.

easypazz

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Carlow weather fella (waves!) was on Pat Kenny's programme speaking sense. It hadn't occurred to me that there is no official flood warning system in place here - his views that local weather impact rather than catchall "yellow/orange/red" warnings over a swath of land make more sense is also sound.

Absolutely. They were correct to take precautions in the usual known flood areas like Lahinch and Salthill. Yes cancel ferries to the Aran Islands.

But dishing out a countywide alert is a flawed system.

John mac

John mac wrote: »

Just landed in Dublin. Heading to mayo . Should be there for 3ish
Will report in the morning of any weather events along the way.
Breezy and dry here ATM.

well it was a usual wet and windy drive , lots of surface water & leaves, couple of flooded spots around Tulsk ,
got very blowy and wet around Swinford ,
some spots on the road were covered in a blanket of leaves .

signostic

The celebrity forecasters from Met want to remain celebrities, Gerry Murphy on the 6pm RTE news yesterday and the look on his face indicated that he knew the game was up but persisted with the dooms day scenario.
But who got in right in Met ...the aviation forecasters who work away from the limelight and do the fixed time forecasts for the airports. The forecast issued at 6pm yesterday for Knock Airport covering a 24 hour peroid only forecast strong winds with gale gusts.

Oneiric 3

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I’d say Sharon NiBheolain was up all night in a bunker in RTE as she couldn’t risk going home in a national emergency.

I had the misfortune to see the first part of the 9 0 Clock news last night and knew things must be serious when Sharon was standing up beside a big screen as she read the news.

It's all about the drama.

Hooter23

99% of the so called storms dont live up to the hype...but all the hype is creating the delusion of climate change...all part of the plan sure:rolleyes:

windy shepard henderson

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

God fcuking help us as a nation if we got Caribbean style storms

We have in the past, plenty of them reaching well over 100mph that's the problem, it's easier track Caribbean storms then, atla

windy shepard henderson

Atlantic storms, it was Warreted on the west coast

odyboody

We dont stand a chance of getting the general public to understand whats going on when the media talk up a Yellow warning.
Met definition of a Yellow warning:- Yellow Not unusual weather. Localised danger.[/COLOR]

BarryD2

Climatologist on RTE radio now explaining why the cyclone wasn't as bad as expected. But this is not the business of climatology, he should be on to discuss long term patterns, not one off events. More RTE/ government propaganda.