Everest

kunst nugget wrote: »

Not really sure what difference this makes... a married guy with a young daughter and another child on the way decides to take a huge risk, a completely uninsurable one at that, and decides to attempt to climb Everest.

Most people would view that as being very selfish. Doesn't really matter what he said to convince the missus.

It really only matters about how him and his family viewed it and not for us to speculate. We have no idea what level of input the wife had, for or against.

From the outside looking in, yes, I can see the selfish aspect, but without the inner knowings of the couple, we don't know.

josip

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

This thread is going around in circles. Time to close it down

redmgar wrote: »

And very possibly slanderous posts about the creator of the campaign. Hopefully screenshots were made of these.

Farawayhome wrote: »

Close it down.

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

...
Crazy talk on thread and should be moderated

I can't remember the last thread on AH where there was such a clamour to have the discussion stopped.

Farawayhome wrote: »

Just standing up to the nasty people who like to put the boot in. That's not losing the head. You need to take a close look in the mirror at yourself.

I'm not the one who inferred a widower with a child who posted on this thread was jealous of the Lawless family, simply because he questioned the clarity of the GFM page.
That was below the belt and nasty.

Farawayhome wrote: »

Taking joy in having a dig at a dead man is pretty nasty.

Calling a missing man a dead man repeatedly is pretty nasty.

bucketybuck

B0jangles wrote: »

Guys, check the post history - this poster is clearly trying to wind everyone up, and with the express intent of getting the thread shut down.

Do not fall for it.

Worth quoting.

pc7

Farawayhome can I ask do you know the family or people involved in the GFM page?

Farawayhome wrote: »

So? Why deprive his family?

What exactly am I depriving them of?

banie01

Farawayhome wrote: »

Do you have an issue with the money going to the family if not on a recovery mission?

Are incapable of reading what you quoted?

It's laid out there in very plain English.

I hope you are not reflective of TCD alumni in general.

kunst nugget

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Calling a missing man a dead man repeatedly is pretty nasty.

Seriously, he's hardly Schrödinger's climber at this stage... no one is going to survive up there this long.

jasper100

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Jeff2 wrote: »

Here.

You have quoted an anonymous one post wonder on the internet. Thats not an official source.

kunst nugget

Farawayhome wrote: »

Can you remember a thread where so many posters were taking delight in another families misfortune?

Who has taken delight in the family's misfortune?

kunst nugget wrote: »

Seriously, he's hardly Schrödinger's climber at this stage... no one is going to survive up there this long.

I'm aware of the chances of survival this long out and with the weather up there.
But until confirmed, he should be reported as missing.

redmgar

josip wrote: »

I can't remember the last thread on AH where there was such a clamour to have the discussion stopped.

Don't care if it's stopped, some people need an outlet.

Farawayhome wrote: »

They were shouting about where there money was. They posted it. You agree with them in not wanting this family to receive the financial support. Shame on you.

You appear to have selective reading comprehension.
Shame on you for deliberately misrepresenting posts made in good faith.

knucklehead6

Farawayhome wrote: »

Can you remember a thread where so many posters were taking delight in another families misfortune?

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110200935&postcount=2333

You were taking delight in calling serving soldiers state terrorists here. How do you think the families of those men felt?

To be honest, this thread has descended into a total trainwreck.

Farawayhome wrote: »

We all know he's dead. This is why the digs are so horrible.

We know the chance of survival in the circumstances are not great.
Repeatedly calling him dead may be more harmful to the family if they are reading.

banie01

Farawayhome wrote: »

Here we go. You really have not painted yourself in a good light on this thread.

Here we go...
Where?

Farawayhome wrote: »

Stand over your posts. Don't cowardly attempt to weasel your way out of it. You should be embarrassed.

3/10, try harder.

jasper100

Farawayhome wrote: »

They were state terrorists.

Close this thread, I agree.

I think you need help.

PhuckHugh22

Farawayhome wrote: »

The posters having a dig.

Something you seem to be blatantly ignoring is those of us looking for clarity on the gofundme page and where it states the money will be going to his family after the recovery mission?
I have looked at the page a few times and cannot seem to find it.

Before you go off on some rant about how i am slandering the mans family. I wish no ill will of him or his family i would just like to know where the money is going to if i did donate? Will it be returned to me if the recovery doesnt go ahead?

Is it not ok to question these things. Surely you cant be ok with that?

[Deleted User]

Farawayhome wrote: »

At least you came out and asked instead of a few others sneakily suggesting it. I have no involvement at all. I'm just standing up for a poor, unfortunate family while faceless keyboard warriors have a go at them. One day they could read this, shame on the people taking delight in this.

youre a month old account engaged in very typical eh lets call it disruptive internet behaviour

and unless thats your real name......

knucklehead6 wrote: »

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110200935&postcount=2333

You were taking delight in calling serving soldiers state terrorists here. How do you think the families of those men felt?

To be honest, this thread has descended into a total trainwreck.

I'd be surprised if Farawayhome replied to this:rolleyes:

ancapailldorcha

Farawayhome, do not post in this thread again.

gctest50

knucklehead6 wrote: »

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110200935&postcount=2333

You were taking delight in calling serving soldiers state terrorists here. How do you think the families of those men felt?

To be honest, this thread has descended into a total trainwreck.

That's just a way to get it shut down those sort use

Anyway stuff more back on the track :

Saying :

The insurance company are not paying out currently because Shay did not take out search and rescue

would be a bit more honest than saying

The insurance company that had provided a policy for Séamus (Shay) are currently not providing assistance with the search and rescue

banie01

Farawayhome wrote: »

I think those calling him selfish and demanding the family recieve no financial support is more harmful.

There's your comprehension issue raising itself again.

No-one has said the family should receive no support.
What has been said is the money raised for a specific purpose should be used for that purpose or refunded.

If there is a fundraiser for the family, please share it.
The rescue and recovery fundraiser is not that!

Farawayhome wrote: »

I think those calling him selfish and demanding the family recieve no financial support is more harmful.

There was most certainly a level of selfishness in him undertaking the climb of Everest.

josip

Farawayhome wrote: »

Shame on you for wanting a pregnant bereaved woman and her child to not receive any financial support.

Shame on their husband and father for putting them in this situation

rdwight

Farawayhome wrote: »

Well, it is for a recovery mission but if that doesn't go ahead it will go to the family. That's not deception. Why do you have a problem with that?

Because it doesn't say that on the gofundme page.

However, I agree with you that the thread should be closed to new posts.

There have been no developments for several days (apart from the gofundme total ticking along). All the points that need to be made have been made.

I agree with many of the points made about parental responsibility, the disingenuousness that surrounds charity holidays, and the ethics of pushing for recovering bodies from dangerous places. However, there haven't really been any new points in the last couple of hundred posts and posters are edging towards abusiveness too easily.

Is there any update on insurance, or whether there will be a payout with a body?

Probably impossible to know unless you know the family/friends.