Garibaldi? wrote: » it would be nice to hire a scooter to find out if you'd like using one before buying. But they're 100 euros a night. Pity you couldn't hire one for a couple of hours for about 30 quid!
antodeco wrote: » Would an AM licence cover you for one of these?
grogi wrote: » If it is an MPV - you don't have insurance, which is much bigger deal. If it isn't an MPV - you don't need to have any licence.
antodeco wrote: » You can get insurance for one of these elsewhere in Europe, and any insurance offered in Europe is fully valid here. So i can sort that out if needed. If I knew the licence also covered it, then that's another bit that's "legal". Would just be the tax.
...Ghost... wrote: » If they were to be covered under any existing license, it would be a moped license, or a B license from before 2006.
antodeco wrote: » Weirdly, my licence is pre 2006 and I only have the AM and tractor (W?) on my licence. I always thought the moped licence (A?) was included
...Ghost... wrote: » It is. A pre summer 2006 B Licence automatically covers a moped.
antodeco wrote: » Apologies, we may be talking about the take thing. Is that the AM category? That's the only "A" category included on my licence. Or do you mean that the "B" actually includes it?
...Ghost... wrote: » The AM category is a moped, or anything under 50cc. It's separate to what I am talking about. I have an AM category on my full B license because I got my full B in time. Anyone with 2007+ Full B license needs a separately achieve an license for a moped (AM).
beauf wrote: » This thread is 72 pages long and 12 months. Mainly because eScooters have no official status or category and most aren't willing to accept that. In that context you got a quick answer.
beauf wrote: » I had a lot of hassle with my licence renewals over the years. They removed a lot of categories from it. It took about 6 months of fighting just to get the date of my original license on it.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » They did that to mine also many years ago when the licence changed format. I never did get around to reinstating the lost categories As it turned out I never needed any of them ..... included motorbike and heavy truck IIRC. This has caused me to ponder .... I had a licence for those categories, so am I still licenced for them although they have been omitted from my present licence? It might make an interesting case if stopped for not having a suitable current licence showing the category.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » you mentioned that electric wheelchairs get dispensation even though they are fully powered all the time and not just providing assistance. Have you come across any specification for what constitutes an electric wheelchair? When used on the road is it stated, rather than implied, that the wheelchair must be occupied by a person with a 'disability which necessitates the use of' such a vehicle? In other words, what is the legal situation if a commuter uses an electric wheelchair instead of walking?
rubadub wrote: » I was looking this up and saw nothing about having to be disabled, I expect that would introduced all sorts of needless red tape. I cannot find anything on irishstatutebook but on UK & Irish sites they seem to all say a max speed of 4mph on footpaths and 8mph on roads. RSA mention no speed limitshttp://rsa.ie/Documents/VS_Information_Notes/Special_Purpose_Vehicles/FAQs%20on%20Motorised%20Wheelchairs%20and%20Mobility%20Scooters.pdf this UK site has more (of course the law may be different here)https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/rules-for-users-of-powered-wheelchairs-and-mobility-scooters-36-to-46
Wheelchair users (which includes those using powered wheelchairs or mobility scooters) should face oncoming traffic in the same manner as if they were being pushed by an adult, they should also use a footpath or hard shoulder where possible at all times and cross the road at pedestrian crossings, traffic lights or at a location that gives them the best view of any approaching traffic.
When on the road, Class 3 vehicles should travel in the direction of the traffic. Class 2 users should always use the pavement when it is available. When there is no pavement, you should use caution when on the road. Class 2 users should, where possible, travel in the direction of the traffic. If you are travelling at night when lights MUST be used, you should travel in the direction of the traffic to avoid confusing other road users.
beauf wrote: » This is what you want. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA9k-dz7Bqw
"invalid carriage" means a mechanically propelled vehicle the weight unladen of which does not exceed 6 cwt. and which is specially designed and constructed for the use of persons suffering from a physical defect or disability and which is used solely by such persons;
(g) In this sub-article, ‘pedestrians’ includes any person using a wheelchair, mechanically propelled, or otherwise.”,
ED E wrote: » FWIW you're using the wrong term In 1963 a Gard would tell an abled bodied person to fvck off if spotted on one perhaps, nowadays they'd never risk the discrimination lawsuit. The terminology changed in '12 They can drive in cycle lanes, act like pedestrians. Definition looks to be changed in the ROTR but not the SIs so the requirements are just that it be less than 272KG and for disabled persons. I think it would be legal to be 90% blind and to drive one of these. Another instance of the RTAs being horribly messy and outdated.
ewj1978 wrote: » posted in another thread. Garda is quite clear on the law.
