Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2019

Boom_Bap wrote: »

The one that I recall is where he came outside the box to head the ball but misjudged it.
I don't see that as a howler at all. If he didn't then it would have been much easier for them to get in on goal. So he dramatically reduced the chance of them scoring, although not graceful in how he done it.

More Milner getting in his way. He couldn't exactly clatter him like he did to Josh King (I think it was?)

akelly02 wrote: »

what about parrying one straight into spurs path the other day, he was fairly scampering accross his goal then. Should have been punished

What is your argument exactly? That he hasn't won us points? He clearly has and you've now got multiple examples, is your argument now changing to "he won us points but he shouldn't have because he should have been punished in x situation"?

Boom_Bap

akelly02 wrote: »

Allison got away with a couple of howlers again the weekend, confidence still high with him around here?

i said a month or so that he will cost liverpool games, and at this stage , when he does it will end up costing the league.

The one that I recall is where he came outside the box to head the ball but misjudged it.
I don't see that as a howler at all. If he didn't then it would have been much easier for them to get in on goal. So he dramatically reduced the chance of them scoring, although not graceful in how he done it.

akelly02 wrote: »

what about parrying one straight into spurs path the other day, he was fairly scampering accross his goal then. Should have been punished

Reaching a bit there Kane riffled one at him from about 8 yards out,

The end of the day himself and Ederson have been the best keepers in the league this year by a long way ,

Fitz*

akelly02 wrote: »

how many games has he won for ye exactly?

from the top of my head:

Brighton 1-0 big save in the last few mins
Crystal Palace 2-0. big save at 1-0 to keep Palace scoreless. We scored last minute to round off the win.
Burnley 3-1 - made a big save at 2-1 in the last minute and set up a counter attack goal then to win the game.
Everton 1-0. big saves at 0-0 to keep us with a chance of winning the game, which we did thanks to their dinosaur'd arm keeper.
Chelsea 1-1 - actually had a few important saves in this game to keep it at 0-0 and then 0-1, before we got a late equalizer. important point at the time too.

Napoli 1-0 massive save in the last minute to keep the score at 1-0. any goal conceded meant we were knocked out.

Is that enough? there is probably more to add aswell.

TitianGerm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Comparing clean sheets would also have a huge comparison on defenders. And Liverpool's defence is definitely better than Uniteds

Comparing goalkeeper stats is always going to be difficult. Easiest stat to look at is always clean sheets but surely shots to goal ratio is a factor but then sh1ter teams will likely have more saves.

I didn't have time look for loads of stats :pac: I just mentioned De Gea because he's the best keeper in the league and he's made more mistakes that led to goals this season than Alisson.

De Gea has made lost of errors this season,
The goal at Arsenal recently from Xhaxa , the Mustafi goal at old Trafford v Arsenal There are more

He has made more errors than Alisson

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Said it many many times Alisson positioning is world class,
De Gea is great keeper can't deny that best shot stopper out there but his positioning is quite poor why he makes so many world class full length saves ,

if you notice there are very very few times Alisson needs to throw himself across a goal due to his foot work and positioning ,

what about parrying one straight into spurs path the other day, he was fairly scampering accross his goal then. Should have been punished

TitianGerm wrote: »

I've never said he's won us many games. You said that.

What he has done is conceded the fewest goals in the league so far this season. Less than half the amount De Gea has conceded, he's been better than any of the other new top 6 keepers in the league. Most clean sheets as well. Wasn't even shown on the BBC graphic for keeepers whos mistakes have led to goals the other night.

So not to bad for someone who's "error prone".

Said it many many times Alisson positioning is world class,
De Gea is great keeper can't deny that best shot stopper out there but his positioning is quite poor why he makes so many world class full length saves ,

if you notice there are very very few times Alisson needs to throw himself across a goal due to his foot work and positioning ,

TitianGerm wrote: »

I've never said he's won us many games. You said that.

What he has done is conceded the fewest goals in the league so far this season. Less than half the amount De Gea has conceded, he's been better than any of the other new top 6 keepers in the league. Most clean sheets as well. Wasn't even shown on the BBC graphic for keeepers whos mistakes have led to goals the other night.

So not to bad for someone who's "error prone".

ok im seeing things so, hes not error prone

in all seriousness, do these types of blunders not worry you? Allison was blessd that ball fell into his hands after turning his arse to it, Loris not so lucky with his blunder

Shanotheslayer

TitianGerm wrote: »

I've never said he's won us many games. You said that.

What he has done is conceded the fewest goals in the league so far this season. Less than half the amount De Gea has conceded, he's been better than any of the other new top 6 keepers in the league. Most clean sheets as well. Wasn't even shown on the BBC graphic for keeepers whos mistakes have led to goals the other night.

So not to bad for someone who's "error prone".

Comparing clean sheets would also have a huge comparison on defenders. And Liverpool's defence is definitely better than Uniteds

Comparing goalkeeper stats is always going to be difficult. Easiest stat to look at is always clean sheets but surely shots to goal ratio is a factor but then sh1ter teams will likely have more saves.

akelly02 wrote: »

how many games has he won for ye exactly?

Got us a point at Chelsea,
Got us a win at Burnley
Got us the result we need v Napoli or we'd been out ,
Got us a point at Old Trafford ,

That's just off the top of my head sure there many more ,

TitianGerm wrote: »

I've never said he's won us many games. You said that.

What he has done is conceded the fewest goals in the league so far this season. Less than half the amount De Gea has conceded, he's been better than any of the other new top 6 keepers in the league. Most clean sheets as well. Wasn't even shown on the BBC graphic for keeepers whos mistakes have led to goals the other night.

So not to bad for someone who's "error prone".

Think he's got the highest save % in the league also?

Dude is elite

TitianGerm

akelly02 wrote: »

how many games has he won for ye exactly?

I've never said he's won us many games. You said that.

What he has done is conceded the fewest goals in the league so far this season. Less than half the amount De Gea has conceded, he's been better than any of the other new top 6 keepers in the league. Most clean sheets as well. Wasn't even shown on the BBC graphic for keeepers whos mistakes have led to goals the other night.

So not to bad for someone who's "error prone".

akelly02 wrote: »

Allison got away with a couple of howlers again the weekend, confidence still high with him around here?

i said a month or so that he will cost liverpool games, and at this stage , when he does it will end up costing the league.

The weekend was strange one for Alisson he normally recovers from any mistakes, as he made a mess of a easy ball early on he tried to collect near Trents feet and never recovered at all,

He is still a top clas keeper,

I could be wrong but I can't recall him costing us any points this season ?

cj maxx

gimli2112 wrote: »

It's funny but I was never that impressed with Torres pre-Liverpool and he had gone off the boil when he left but for a short window he was exceptional

Rafa set the team up to isolate Torres v their cb and he ran them ragged . He had pace, movement and was unbelievably clinical.

charolais0153 wrote: »

Gerrard was most definitely world class. Torres salah 'coutinho and others arent/werent on that level

Torres was certainly world class in his first 3 season's then injury took there tool,
He was all about explosiveness and the injuries robbed him of that ,

akelly02 wrote: »

Allison got away with a couple of howlers again the weekend, confidence still high with him around here?

i said a month or so that he will cost liverpool games, and at this stage , when he does it will end up costing the league.

Confidence definitely still high. Best keeper we’ve had in a long long time.

TitianGerm wrote: »

Are you just ignoring all the points he's saved us to date though?

how many games has he won for ye exactly?

TitianGerm

akelly02 wrote: »

Allison got away with a couple of howlers again the weekend, confidence still high with him around here?

i said a month or so that he will cost liverpool games, and at this stage , when he does it will end up costing the league.

Are you just ignoring all the points he's saved us to date though?