Cookie_Monster wrote: » It may or it may not, who knows for now. At least something is being tried instead of doing nothing until the mythical perfect solution becomes available. Laws can be reversed or amended if needed if they don't work out...
Wibbs wrote: » Secondly just because one does something, doesn't mean that something will have the effect you think. It'll also be interesting to see how many New Zealand gun owners actually hand back their weapons.
Wibbs wrote: » Just going on the snippets that have been reported of what he was coming out with(now admittedly I haven't read his "manifesto"), my overriding impression of him and how I would describe him - and this may sound odd - is that he's a troll. Coming from a similar basic start point as any forum/twitter troll(with murder on top of course). The "manifesto" for a start, the 4/8chan stuff, the wildly different and contrasting opinions, deflection, appeals to populism and appeals to different "friendly" groups, name dropping pretty random "influencers" and even dropping the name of the youtube "star" guy just before he went off to murder innocent people. Like it was like some sort of disconnect single player game. His travels and subsequent crime are like some horrific trolling trajectory too and his court appearance with the "nazi" symbolism stuff. If a poster came out with that kinda thing in text here I'd be immediately thinking wind up merchant and troll. I dunno if I'm explaining my thinking on this well though. Maybe... OK think of the biggest oddball troll you've encountered in your time online, now imagine that same troll with that extra garnish on top of inhumanity and murderous intent(though I'd bet he reckons he's both humane and not murderous, which backs up that he's neither). I reckon what you'd end up with might this prick.
Zorya wrote: » As I've said, I ain't his fan, but anyone with a titter of wit knows what happened in that photo. He gave his lecture, stood in the promotion place or whatever and every 4 or 5 seconds someone steps up for the photo and couple of words. He has said it could be hundreds in an evening. Most likely that is the context of the evidence, your honour.
Cookie_Monster wrote: » So the legislation is not perfect, so what? It's a first step towards trying to actually do something rather than the continued fingers in ears approach of the past. It'll never keep everyone happy but we live in a democracy and the majority want guns restricted.
Zorya wrote: » brain helplessly freezes
ArrBee wrote: » interestingly, Australia has made a show of sending "bad New Zealanders" back to NZ in recent years. Any reciprocal action by NZ could be based on the same "understanding".
mvl wrote: »
Wibbs wrote: » A non semiautomatic rifle type, that can carry 8 rounds of various calibers in their fixed magazines and capable of very accurate rapid fire, not far off a semiautomatic, reloading being the bottleneck there. The legislation doesn't cover them and they're also quite the popular firearm. Revolvers aren't in the mix either.
Danzy wrote: » He was as left as much as he was right. Strongly opposed to the free market, to globalization, believed in the State as the dominant force in business.
MrFresh wrote: » Well done on successfully turning a thread about a white nationalist murdering fifty Muslims into an anti-left thread. Quite the accomplishment. Shameful, but still impressive.
Danzy wrote: » Chelsea Clinton is getting it in the neck from the totalitarian Left as well, told she was responsible for Christchurch. The finger snapping is very creepy. For many of us who are economically on the Left, the decent in to cultist thinking and actions in a large section of the modern Left and progressive movements is frightening.
Cienciano wrote: » I'll tell you what's even more mad. You searching what books a privately owned shop on the other side of the world stock and worrying about their credibility
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » It's scary that jordan peterson has more of a link to terrorism than the quran in the eyes of this book store. Just listening to 'the sort of stuff' that JP talks about is enough to stop stocking his book. But quoting the quran or using it as justification for terrorism is far enough removed to keep it in stock. Just sounds a bit mad.
Manic Moran wrote: » you know the way most people on Boards scoff at the idea common in America that there is safety in more people carrying guns?
Manic Moran wrote: » The President of the Czech Republic two years ago, shortly after the Paris attack, urged those with permits to carry, and for others to arm themselves, as a defense system against terrorist attack. There are a quarter million carry permit holders in the population of ten million.
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » tell me where I said they couldn't?
Bannasidhe wrote: » Or as a private company decide for themselves which books they wish to stock... kinda like how people argue what message cake makers should be allowed to write on the cakes they make.
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » Yes to be credible they will have to remove a lot of books from their shelves.
Bannasidhe wrote: » Whitcoulls. They do stock the Quran - they also stock the Bible which obviously should be banned has it encouraged mass killings through out the centuries as people violently disagreed with the meaning of parts of it. AND it fuels Christian extremists such as those Christians in Uganda who wanted to bring a law making homosexuality a capital offence.
Boggles wrote: » How do you know they stock the Quran? Which book store is it?
Bannasidhe wrote: » Didn't she do that on Saturday Night Live?? And it destroyed her career in the U.S - but as far as I am aware didn't encourage any one to open fire on any Popes...
Cienciano wrote: » We know how the photo was taken, the link here is not the photo itself. It's that the sort of stuff the shooter was listening to was JP. Just as well no books have been banned here.
Danzy wrote: » The shooter knew that the establishment/Left would react that way. That doesn't make him analytical, it was obvious they would react differently.
Thrashssacre wrote: » It’s the wrong way to approach this tragedy, it plays into the idea a lot of the alt right guys have of the whole globalist world being against them. They’ll point to the books being banned, call to prayer being played on Friday and assault weapons being banned as reason for them being treated differently when they “fight back”. We’re giving them all the ammunition they need to justify their beliefs. When the attacks in France were done there so no books banned, no individual philosopher or YouTube figures blamed for legitimizing the sort of people who did this shooting. This is playing right into their hands.
Bannasidhe wrote: » So if a person, say an Iman who lives in Ireland, who had just given a talk was to have his photo taken next to Mustafa Proud ISISmember you would be just peachy about that?
Bannasidhe wrote: » You really believe a privately owned chain of book stores deciding to no longer stock a particular author is the same thing as what is happening in your Godwin photo? Do you not think it is up to a private company to decide for themselves what stock they wish to sell? May surprise to learn the Irish government has banned books.
