Gardaí say they are aware of a female member of the Defence Forces who became radicalised and travelled to Syria but there has been no contact with her since. Lisa Smyth served as a private in the Defence Forces before transferring to the Air Corps
Galwayguy35 wrote: » Was watching a clip on Sky News,the jihadi wives are a hateful lot shouting at the cameras that ISIS will be back. You can't change that way of thinking and they will use their kids to get back to the various European countries they originally came from who will in turn become the next generation of home grown terrorists. We need to up our game here and develop an anti terrorist organisation along the lines of MI6 and not be relying on the Brits to give us the heads up as to what's happening in our own back yard.
Richard Hillman wrote: » Monitoring her or electronic tags won't do anything won't do anything. She will still roll up to Clonskeagh mosque for hours on end, giving it the large one about her pilgrimage to the caliphate, to the acclaim of the parishioners.
jmreire wrote: » And maybe not... she could turn out to be the best anti-isis person on the planet.
Gatling wrote: » Highly unlikely more likely she will be happy organising terrorist attacks known she free to do so
SaifUllah wrote: » What's wrong with ISIS though ? Let's not forget for example - the rape and murder of those Yazhidi women was justified - they were the property of the jihadist fighters. If you go through what they did, the prophet Mohammed (PBUH) didn't do anything ISIS didn't.
SaifUllah wrote: » F*ck this . This has all been a test, I can't believe this account is still up. Shame shame shame shame on boards.ie for letting a user spread vile pro ISIS poison on here with no so much as a card!!! . . . . . . closing
Sephiroth_dude wrote: » MOD Refrain from the personal abuse please. Keep it civil please folks.
jmayo wrote: » Did you notice the above posts at all at all all day yesterday ??????? Is it ok to justify rape and murder of innocent women and children if you do in a very civil fashion ?
Limpy wrote: » Most of the people who went over to Syria went while there governments turned a blind eye. Happy in the knowledge that soon they would change a regime and install a puppet. In the UK some 'freedom fighters' who travelled to Syria were working covertly for the UK. One of the main reasons why the US didnt want the Syrian goverment or Russia finishing off the last batch of Isis land is because they contain many of these 'citizens'. Even Trump said Europe must take back those citizens. And he is right because they facilitated it by turning a blind eye. No pressure was ever put on Turkey, which is a Nato member to close the border. People were travelling willy nilly to SYRIA and getting plenty of air time from western media about fighting big bad Assad.
Sam Quentin wrote: » I suspect when she returns,that all her electronic devices will be monitored and she'll have to sign on at the local Garda Station once a week.... Like what more can be done!?
Squatter wrote: » Why do a minority of clueless gob****es persist in whinging about a shady businessman who was caught evading at least €1.6 million in import tax being sent to jail?
fash wrote: » The problem is that she will be going to mosque, interacting with Muslims, telling them all about how wonderful and magical ISIS were and that the bad things were lies/deserved by the unbelievers and that they were destroyed by the unbelievers. She will have free access when she gets back and she will contaminate a lot of people. I don't have a solution to it- I'm just pointing out what will happen. The government should have declared Isis a proscribed organisation.
Travelling to Syria is not a crime in itself, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has said. He has confirmed the Irishwoman detained in Syria on suspicion of Isil membership will be allowed to return home because it is the "compassionate thing" to do, he added.
Ireland may be too small a country to establish a CIA, KGB, or Israeli Mossad-style security agency, the Taoiseach has told the Dáil. “The Government would “need to weigh up the pros and cons” of establishing such an agency, he said. “I am cautious about it, to put it that way,” Mr Varadkar said. “We are a small, neutral country.”
AlekSmart wrote: » There are other issues running parallell here,not all of which are personal to this woman. The Taoiseach has clearly taken the best PR line for his style of Politics...https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/going-to-syria-not-a-crime-so-she-can-come-home-with-her-child-varadkar-37903569.html Mr Vardakar is not,in general,a fan of Intelligence agencies and the likes...https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/taoiseach-cautious-about-cia-kgb-or-mossad-style-security-agency-1.3466230?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Ever mindful of the bad ol Brits treatment of their Isis Gal,Mr Varadakar's people will want to ensure he does not become another Sajid Javid in the media's eyes. There is also a somewhat more worrisome detail for Irish Military HQ,which entails what level of intelligence gathering and assessment is carried out within the Defence Forces. This woman was,after all a long serving,fully trained Soldier,presumably still well acccquainted with modern military tactics,equipment and weaponry ? The reality that this woman had a level of security clearance to accompany the highest level of the Diplomatic Corps,in the most close-quarter Security scenarios should be ringing all sorts of Alarm Bells in The Directorate of Military Intelligence.(an agency long predating our modern Republic) The Taoiseach is,after all,a professional politician,just the latest in a long line of such folk,whose job is to strut about,take a bit of flak for a time,before retiring peacefully to a well paid sinecure in business or academia. The individuals now presenting at the gates of Western media outlets,proclaiming their innocence,naievity or otherwise,are made of sterner stuff altogether,as they have been exposed to,and embraced,a very significant belief-structure,not at all inclined to admire or respect the lifestyle or ethos so well defined by the Taoisígh of modern Éire ? Plenty of work to be done here I reckon...?
Grayson wrote: » We have a good counter terrorism group. Remember the north of ireland is the most active terrorist hotspot in europe by far. And the Irish police cooperate, with and have information from every other EU country, through europol.[/quote Actually agree Grayson. There is a multi agency group under aegis of military intelligence/archives. It is a defacto experienced and effective intelligence group but without the fancy letterhead as mi6 or cia. It shuns the limelight as is proper
Grayson wrote: » We have a good counter terrorism group. Remember the north of ireland is the most active terrorist hotspot in europe by far. And the Irish police cooperate, with and have information from every other EU country, through europol.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » She was an Air Steward on the government jet. Lets not get carried away.
jmayo wrote: » Why do people always try to equate Republican and Loyalist terrorists with islamic terrorists, especially the modern al qeada or ISIS variety? How many Arabic speaking police or military do we have ? How many officers could easily assimilate into an islamic community ? I would bet we have to rely on the Brits and Americans for most intel. And even then the lone wolfe, so called mentally disturbed around here, attackers are very hard to monitor never mind spot. You mean someone with military training was on a government jet with the leader of the state. How many other passengers were on board to stop her in the event of an attack ? Could she have gotten something on board in order to carry out an attack ? I would bet the answer is Yes. The fact that someone that had very close proximity to our nations leader a few years later was over with ISIS would be huge matter of concern in any other country.
jmayo wrote: » someone with military training was on a government jet with the leader of the state. How many other passengers were on board to stop her in the event of an attack ? Could she have gotten something on board in order to carry out an attack ? I would bet the answer is Yes. The fact that someone that had very close proximity to our nations leader a few years later was over with ISIS would be huge matter of concern in any other country.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Jeez, you're making her out to be some sort of super soldier. Hyperbole much?
Gatling wrote: » Soldiers are trained killers first and foremost
Gatling wrote: » No she was a fully trained soldier first , trained in weapons and military tactics,and emergency response.. Soldiers are trained killers first and foremost
ohnonotgmail wrote: » a steely eyed dealer of death no doubt
goat2 wrote: » With that kind of training, is it possible that she trained some of their fighters on how to handle weapons
SoundsRight wrote: » Gardai don't seem to have the same sort of helplines on their website as UK police for getting advice on a relative converting to Islam. Hopefully this case will have pushed them into action.
jmreire wrote: » ..segregation between the sexe's was very much the rule as Sharia Law was strictly enforced in the Caliphate.
Atoms for Peace wrote: » I'd have a lot more respect for FG if they actually stood up for the interests of "those who get up in the morning".
Gatling wrote: » But yet women took part military and police roles inside the caliphate
