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Is the Dublin accent dying?

Dickie10

has anyone noticed the way young girls and boys are not speaking in the strong dublin accents anymore? they either sound very flat bordering on D4 or like most late late toy show kids fully blown D4 or else there half americanised accent. so will we see many dublin accents at all in future? vast majority of dublin gaa and dublin based rugby plaayers now have very little trace of a dublin accent. also seems very hard to distinguish between young people in dublin, meath ,kildare or wicklow accent wise because of the amount of kids born to dublin parents in these counties , they may have never lived a day in dublin in there lives but now definitly dont see themselves as culchies either. so what are these type of people to be called?

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Calltocall

Calltocall wrote: »

So you’re a scumbag if you have an authentic accent which originates from where you live, I’d rather have the authenticity of that than this half British/American fake accent which was basically made up to make one sound supposedly more intelligent and used to hide your origins for fear of people looking down on you, so insincere and ridiculous, be real, always the best policy.

And this doesn’t just apply to Dublin, I travel quite a bit around the country and have friends in Cork, Galway, one thing I love about Ireland is the variety of accents we have for such a small country, it makes us authentic, I was in Galway recently and spoke with a gentleman who to me had a strong D4 accent when I asked where do you hail from and live, it was Spiddal I was puzzled, it’s not the first time I’ve come across that, I don’t know I see the whole British /American tv accent becoming more prevalent and imo it erodes ones authenticity, again be yourself and proud of where you come from whatever county that may be.

Kitty6277

Succubus_ wrote: »

I'm from Cork city and have heard plenty of Cork city people say I seen and I done and them shoes. I've also heard people say crips, hostible (hospital) and chimley (chimney). It seems to depend on what area you're from in the city.

‘I seen’ and ‘I done’ seems to be very common up here in Tipp as well. Drives me mad

Franz Von Peppercorn

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Hilarious stuff, Wokey.

Lads getting into a huff just because people point out that the classic Dublin accent sounds like a hyena being buggered by a donkey. Christy Dingam, Ronnie Drew, Auld Mr. Brennan, Joe Duffy, Bill Cullen. You'd just wish their parents had cared about them enough to send them to speech and elocution lessons.

I would have taken you for a Dub.

[Deleted User]

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Hilarious stuff, Wokey.

Lads getting into a huff just because people point out that the classic Dublin accent sounds like a hyena being buggered by a donkey. Christy Dingam, Ronnie Drew, Auld Mr. Brennan, Joe Duffy, Bill Cullen. You'd just wish their parents had cared about them enough to send them to speech and elocution lessons.

Doubling down on your satire.

mikemac2

Calltocall wrote: »

I was in Galway recently and spoke with a gentleman who to me had a strong D4 accent when I asked where do you hail from and live, it was Spiddal I was puzzled, it’s not the first time I’ve come across that,

Spiddal

Not all that surprising

Possibly the most expensive property for a town in the entire west of Ireland

iamwhoiam

There is no generic Dublin accent and never was . It varies from Skerries to Howth to Finglas to Firhouse and always did

[Deleted User]

Succubus_ wrote: »

I've also heard people say crips, hostible (hospital) and chimley (chimney). It seems to depend on what area you're from in the city.

Usually it's idiots.

Franz Von Peppercorn

is_that_so wrote: »

It's individual sounds and the problem of combining them i.e. s-p-s. No big deal for an adult or older children but a challenge for smaller kids until they are exposed to phonics and how to form sounds. "Done" and "seen" are a common fossilized form in many parts of the English-speaking world, not just inner-city Dublin.

Yes. But crips is also part of the adult Dublin accent. I don’t think it’s fossilised either - I seen and I done are common and growing if anything.

If kids are exposed to phonics it’s not working.

turbbo

turty tree and a turd = 33 and a 1/3

iamwhoiam

Omackeral wrote: »

Usually it's idiots.

My nan used to say chimly and she was far from an idiot . Born and raised in Portobello and a strong hard working lady . Never judge too quickly

[Deleted User]

turbbo wrote: »

turty tree and a turd = 33 and a 1/3

Or the dirty gee if referring to the bus route...

[Deleted User]

iamwhoiam wrote: »

My nan used to say chimly and she was far from an idiot . Born and raised in Portobello and a strong hard working lady . Never judge too quickly

That's why I said usually. Your nan is sound.

Woke Hogan

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Hilarious stuff, Wokey.

Lads getting into a huff just because people point out that the classic Dublin accent sounds like a hyena being buggered by a donkey. Christy Dingam, Ronnie Drew, Auld Mr. Brennan, Joe Duffy, Bill Cullen. You'd just wish their parents had cared about them enough to send them to speech and elocution lessons.

Honestly they revel in it. I don't think they're genetically inferior but I do believe the average Dublin person just prefers reading celebrity gossip or "veddy sad" human interest stories over anything more intellectually stimulating such as, say, a broadsheet newspaper or novels for adults.

It's a culture that promotes "feelings" over rationalism, with the few bright sparks among them resorting to diversionary tactics such as comparing valid criticisms of Dublin to racial abuse. :rolleyes: To each their own but it wouldn't be for me.

is_that_so

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Yes. But crips is also part of the adult Dublin accent. I don’t think it’s fossilised either - I seen and I done are common and growing if anything.

If kids are exposed to phonics it’s not working.

The child is too young for phonics yet. Fossilization is where nobody has corrected a grammar form and it just sticks as the way to say something. Kids are mimics and this stuff comes from adults. I must admit I don't know any adult who says "crips"!:)

[Deleted User]

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Honestly they revel in it. I don't think they're genetically inferior but I do believe the average Dublin person just prefers reading celebrity gossip or "veddy sad" human interest stories over anything more intellectually stimulating such as, say, a broadsheet newspaper or novels for adults.

To each their own but it wouldn't be for me.

Watch you don't drop your monocle into your caviar there old chap.

turbbo

the dublin accent is class...and I'm a bogger...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X453ABUQ2rM

rossie1977

The more middle class or higher the area the weaker the accent anyway. I have friends from Sutton, Raheny, Killester and their accents are completely different to say people from say Ballymun or Cabra

orourkeda1977

Yes southsiders have started turning american

Woke Hogan

Omackeral wrote: »

Watch you don't drop your monocle into your caviar there old chap.

I'm far from posh, I am just suggesting that people read magazines that are stuffed with articles rather than crosswords, word searches, and pictures of celebrity cellulite.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Honestly they revel in it. I don't think they're genetically inferior but I do believe the average Dublin person just prefers reading celebrity gossip or "veddy sad" human interest stories over anything more intellectually stimulating such as, say, a broadsheet newspaper or novels for adults.

It's a culture that promotes "feelings" over rationalism, with the few bright sparks among them resorting to diversionary tactics such as comparing valid criticisms of Dublin to racial abuse. :rolleyes: To each their own but it wouldn't be for me.

I think you’re getting your attacks in early out of a feeling of understandable rural inferiority. Not just in Ireland but everywhere the smartest and most ambitious people migrate to the cities, including country people. And not just Dublin, but Cork etc. That’s why your son left.

That’s where the best jobs are, the best universities are, the intellectual centres are.

Now it may be that people who live in Godforsaken bergs are all reading the best novels and broadsheets (produced where by the way?), but in general I just see guys scratching their arse and spitting on the ground whenever I have the misfortune to drive past. Theres a excitement of the GAA on Sunday I suppose.

jimgoose

is_that_so wrote: »

The child is too young for phonics yet. Fossilization is where nobody has corrected a grammar form and it just sticks as the way to say something. Kids are mimics and this stuff comes from adults. I must admit I don't know any adult who says "crips"!:)

Neither do I. "crips" instead of "crisps" is not accent, it's a speech impediment. :pac:

Bigbagofcans

Woke Hogan wrote: »

I'm lucky enough not to have to spend a lot of time in Dublin. The accents and general maudlin attitude down in the capital is totally at odds with my own beliefs. For example I have never watched X Factor or ordered a takeaway meal, nor have I cried at any melodramas starring Ryan Gosling.

There is an element of anti-intellectualism and propensity for sentimentality among the populace of Dublin that I think the rather more stoic citizenry of "de country" are fortunate for not sharing and I dread any day I have to go down to the capital.

My son is in college down there though and he loves it. So who knows.

Aongus Von Bismarck, is that you?

rossie1977

When I was in South Africa people thought I sounded American..and I come from bogs of west Roscommon

Giveaway

The real decent Dub accent is long dead and i miss them. Just scaldy waster accent now.

JohnnyFlash

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Honestly they revel in it. I don't think they're genetically inferior but I do believe the average Dublin person just prefers reading celebrity gossip or "veddy sad" human interest stories over anything more intellectually stimulating such as, say, a broadsheet newspaper or novels for adults.

It's a culture that promotes "feelings" over rationalism, with the few bright sparks among them resorting to diversionary tactics such as comparing valid criticisms of Dublin to racial abuse. :rolleyes: To each their own but it wouldn't be for me.

You didn't mention their love of bottom-of-the-barrel humour. It's no surprise that Brendan O'Carroll, Brendan Grace, June Rodgers, Sil Fox are all from Dublin.

corner of hells

Omackeral wrote: »

Watch you don't drop your monocle into your caviar there old chap.

I'd hate him to fall off his Ivory Tower too.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Woke Hogan wrote: »

I'm far from posh, I am just suggesting that people read magazines that are stuffed with articles rather than crosswords, word searches, and pictures of celebrity cellulite.

Local newspapers then? Because the broadsheet stuff is produced in cities. Apparently cities produce broadsheets to be read by country people, but when I go down the country it’s arse scratchers reading the obituaries.

topper75

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Hope so. The worst part of living in Dublin is having to hear that accent. Sounds like someone is after interfering with them from behind.

Jimmy Carr nailed it with the outside view I hadn't considered -

- those speaking with a north Dublin accent sound just like deaf people.:pac:

Ray Bloody Purchase

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Everybody in Ireland does that, outside of the north.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

You should record yourself some day.