BBFAN wrote: » Because they're not other men? What's difficult to understand for you?
BBFAN wrote: » Do people actually realise that suggesting transsexual people don't exist is like suggesting gay people don't exist? Are you comfortable with that statement? Or maybe you are?
BBFAN wrote: » It's not that far back hun, if you cant' be bothered reading the thread that says it all. You just want to post your **** and not read anything else.
Sonic Youth wrote: » Why is it so triggering for you to learn that straight men don't want sex with other men? This is pretty stuff we're talking about here.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » No, I really wasn't suggesting phobic. But there does seem to be some need to hold something back. Not some a liking of science and fact, but a liking of telling people that I'm not entirely happy with what they're doing.
Sonic Youth wrote: » Are legit thick, trolling or genuinely cannot see why a straight man would refuse sex with another man? Straight women don't want sex with lesbians either.
Sittingpretty wrote: » Which one? Am I expected to wade through the nonsense?
Sittingpretty wrote: » No Andrew, there are no phobic skeletons in my closet. I just like Science and fact.
BBFAN wrote: » See my post above. Refers to you also.
Gravelly wrote: » Where did you get the idea that I don't believe transsexuals exist? They're not ghosts :rolleyes:
BBFAN wrote: » Okay, so now we know your point of view. You don't believe transsexuals exist. That's your point of view. But you are wrong. Scientifically proven. That's okay. You're allowed be wrong.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Do we really need to be 'complicit' in anyone else's feelings? I'm just not sure why you (and many others) feel the need to hold something back - the old 'not a real woman' or equivalent. Is there some deep discomfort about this that makes you feel obliged to hold something back, or try to make someone else feel just a little bit bad?
Gravelly wrote: » No she isn't. She's a man that's had an operation to look like a woman. I could paint myself blue, but I still wouldn't be a smurf.
Sonic Youth wrote: » Because he's a man who's had surgery to take on the crude appearance of a woman.
Sittingpretty wrote: » You put no initials before what you are? What? Not entirely certain what that means tbh. A transsexual woman is not a biological woman. She was born male and every chromosome in her body is still male. Well we’ll all stand corrected if in your experience you find your opinion be be correct. I’ll defer to the heterosexual men on this thread to rise to the challenge to defy you.
BBFAN wrote: » Is that the most intelligent answer you can come with Gravelly? Really? :rolleyes:
BBFAN wrote: » Alright, maybe I need simple language for you so, a transsexual woman who has had the operation is a WOMAN so why would any man balk at that?
BBFAN wrote: » Nope, I'm a woman and I put no initials or anything else before what I am either. As is a transsexual woman. She's a woman, what's the difference? And believe me I know from experience men don't give two fcuks as long as there's a vagina involved. I defy any man to tell me different.
Gravelly wrote: » Perhaps it's the type of men you attract?
Sittingpretty wrote: » As I said, anyone can feel as they choose but feeling like a woman does not a biological woman make, or vice versa. As I stated in my first post, I have no issue with trans people who feel they were born in the wrong body. Their bodies are their own to do with as they please. My point it not everyone has to be complicit in their feelings. Whether a trans woman feels like a woman or not she will never actually be one. However I don’t in any way shape or form deny her the right to live as a woman if she so pleases.
BBFAN wrote: » And believe me I know from experience men don't give two fcuks as long as there's a vagina involved.
Gravelly wrote: » Most single heterosexual men wouldn't have a problem with the above. The post you were referring to was about a transexual though, not a woman, and I would imagine many if not most heterosexual men would balk at that.
