AndrewJRenko wrote: » That would be fairly intense, wouldn't it? But anyway, did you get to think about why you can tell transgender people what they feel, but transgender people can't tell others that they feel they are really the opposite gender
BBFAN wrote: » I never called anyone any names. Just wondering why a man wouldn't have sex with a woman he found extremely attractive and was having a lovely time with? Please explain?
Sittingpretty wrote: » Presumably because heterosexual men like to have sex with actual women who have always been women and not with men who believe themselves to be women. Obviously I can’t speak for heterosexual men but I’d imagine that may be their thinking.
BBFAN wrote: » So you're not a heterosexual man and you're just presuming how they think? Again, hilarious. :D
Sonic Youth wrote: » Are you asking why a man would not sleep with a transsexual? Well now, as a heterosexual man, do I want to have sex with a real woman with an actual vagina, or have sex with a man with an inverted penis? Wow what a difficult choice!
Bannasidhe wrote: » What colour star or triangle do you think it should be obligatory for them to wear?
Sittingpretty wrote: » I’m not a heterosexual man no, are you?
Gravelly wrote: » Most single heterosexual men wouldn't have a problem with the above. The post you were referring to was about a transexual though, not a woman, and I would imagine many if not most heterosexual men would balk at that.
BBFAN wrote: » And believe me I know from experience men don't give two fcuks as long as there's a vagina involved.
BBFAN wrote: » Nope, I'm a woman and I put no initials or anything else before what I am either. As is a transsexual woman. She's a woman, what's the difference? And believe me I know from experience men don't give two fcuks as long as there's a vagina involved. I defy any man to tell me different.
Sittingpretty wrote: » As I said, anyone can feel as they choose but feeling like a woman does not a biological woman make, or vice versa. As I stated in my first post, I have no issue with trans people who feel they were born in the wrong body. Their bodies are their own to do with as they please. My point it not everyone has to be complicit in their feelings. Whether a trans woman feels like a woman or not she will never actually be one. However I don’t in any way shape or form deny her the right to live as a woman if she so pleases.
BBFAN wrote: » Alright, maybe I need simple language for you so, a transsexual woman who has had the operation is a WOMAN so why would any man balk at that?
Gravelly wrote: » Perhaps it's the type of men you attract?
Gravelly wrote: » No she isn't. She's a man that's had an operation to look like a woman. I could paint myself blue, but I still wouldn't be a smurf.
BBFAN wrote: » Is that the most intelligent answer you can come with Gravelly? Really? :rolleyes:
Sittingpretty wrote: » You put no initials before what you are? What? Not entirely certain what that means tbh. A transsexual woman is not a biological woman. She was born male and every chromosome in her body is still male. Well we’ll all stand corrected if in your experience you find your opinion be be correct. I’ll defer to the heterosexual men on this thread to rise to the challenge to defy you.
Sonic Youth wrote: » Because he's a man who's had surgery to take on the crude appearance of a woman.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Do we really need to be 'complicit' in anyone else's feelings? I'm just not sure why you (and many others) feel the need to hold something back - the old 'not a real woman' or equivalent. Is there some deep discomfort about this that makes you feel obliged to hold something back, or try to make someone else feel just a little bit bad?
BBFAN wrote: » Okay, so now we know your point of view. You don't believe transsexuals exist. That's your point of view. But you are wrong. Scientifically proven. That's okay. You're allowed be wrong.
Gravelly wrote: » Where did you get the idea that I don't believe transsexuals exist? They're not ghosts :rolleyes:
BBFAN wrote: » See my post above. Refers to you also.
Sittingpretty wrote: » No Andrew, there are no phobic skeletons in my closet. I just like Science and fact.
