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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018

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SlickRic

that was the performance of a team that has big fúcking balls.

this team won't wilt.
this team has the right characters like VVD, Allisson, Mo and Bobby in order to get shít done.
this team is more balanced than I've seen it in my time as a fan, bar maybe a short period during Rafa's reign on 08/09.
this team is, simply put, a joy to support right now.

there are times in every football fan's life, where they have to support the team through thick and thin.
Through times where the club doesn't meet expectations.
Through times where the football is no fun to watch.
Through times where it is just a chore to watch a game.

enjoy how much fun it is to support the club right now. it won't always be this way.
there will come a time where rival fans will be able to legitimately take us down and ridicule us.
there will come a time where we're not as relevant as we are now.
there will come a time where we won't contend for the big trophies.

such is the circle of football life.

so fúck the haters.
fúck the begrudgers.
fúck those who try to belittle the run we're on.
fúck those who go 'where are your trophies?'.

yes, we've no trophies yet. yes, that will be an issue if it doesn't happen. yes, that is ultimately the yardstick for how good a team is. but fúck me, i'm enjoying being a fan right now.

on we go.

BullBlackNova

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

The one call from the ref that really annoyed me was when Ospina jumped for the ball, made a complete mess of it, and got bailed out with a free kick despite nobody touching him. Especially seeing that after the effort Alisson put in to challenge for the ball with his header at the weekend, feels kinda pointless knowing that even if he made a complete mess of it the ref would probably just give a free out for no reason.

Was that the one where Mané was penalised? Replay shows the goalie straining to get to the ball, Maksimovic blocking his route and Mané standing in front of Maksimovic, lining up the ball.

Never a foul.

I mean, the way Mané was finishing last night, it wouldn't have mattered anyway but that 'foul' bothered me too!

Osmosis Jones

The one call from the ref that really annoyed me was when Ospina jumped for the ball, made a complete mess of it, and got bailed out with a free kick despite nobody touching him. Especially seeing that after the effort Alisson put in to challenge for the ball with his header at the weekend, feels kinda pointless knowing that even if he made a complete mess of it the ref would probably just give a free out for no reason.

5starpool

I think with the ref it was more a case of him giving fouls for things that wouldn't be fouls in the PL, so the age old problem really. I wouldn't say he was bad or worse for one team over the other, just a bit more finicky about things than we'd be used to. In terms of injury time, he should perhaps have added more in the 2nd half as he blew at about 93:58 when we had been time wasting in injury time too, and Robertson was even booked in injury time for time wasting, but nothing else was added on thankfully.

Knex*

FitzShane wrote: »

Top of the league.
Unbeaten.
Top scorer in the league.
Best defence in the league.
Through to the last 16 of the CL.

Pretty nice place to be as a Liverpool fan right now.

Worst fans in the world, too.

shamrock55

I honestly didn't think last night was a nail biter at all only for the save at the end once we went 1 up I was relaxed as anything, very strange to say that about liverpool

marklazarcovic

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rebeca-tavares-strong-words-napoli-15539564

Fabs missus ain't shy anyway lol

TitianGerm

FitzShane wrote: »

Top of the league.
Unbeaten.
Top scorer in the league.
Best defence in the league.
Through to the last 16 of the CL.

Pretty nice place to be as a Liverpool fan right now.

Remember when people used to say stupid things like
Salah is a one season wonder.
VVD isn't worth that much.
Liverpool overpaying for Allison.
Klopp can't organise a defence.
Klopp has no plan B.
Liverpool can't breakdown teams that sit back.

And does anyone remember that lad that said he preferred Rashford to Salah?

citytillidie

Widdensushi wrote: »

Happy to see that the United game is not till Sunday, with injuries and the team looking ran out after 97minutes last night they will need the chance to recover. Did the injury time seem a lot to anyone else last night? No injuries as such and 3min (I think) in the first half and 4 in the second seems to be more than you would have in a pl game.

3 mins was for the treatment after VVD tackle.

I was expecting more than 4 from that ref last night at the end of the game

Fitz*

Top of the league.
Unbeaten.
Top scorer in the league.
Best defence in the league.
Through to the last 16 of the CL.

Pretty nice place to be as a Liverpool fan right now.

gimli2112

BullBlackNova wrote: »

I think a big issue was that in real time, the ref appeared to wave play on, then stop and go back to it. Perfectly entitled to do so, of course, but it meant that people in the stadium, commentary and most fans had already made a split decision on it. For a lot of people that was "great tackle, van Dijk is a boss!" but the replay showed contact that didn't seem clear the first time around.

yeah I made the same point somewhere else, it's what annoyed me. It looked like a fine tackle the ref belted up the pitch then turned round and booked him. My outrage only lasted till the reply. The ref got some things right but others horribly wrong.

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Widdensushi wrote: »

Happy to see that the United game is not till Sunday, with injuries and the team looking ran out after 97minutes last night they will need the chance to recover. Did the injury time seem a lot to anyone else last night? No injuries as such and 3min (I think) in the first half and 4 in the second seems to be more than you would have in a pl game.

The lad Virgil tackled accounted for most of that 3 mins I imagine.
There were a few incidents in the 2nd half, not hard to rack up 4 mins stoppage time to go with the 30 seconds for each substitution.
I don't think the ref added on anything that was unjustified tbh.

BullBlackNova

gimli2112 wrote: »

Just thinking of the VVD challenge. Obviously rival fans are convinced it should have been a red while we, as usual, hold a more balanced view. I would say however Sean Dyche will have fun if he's asked about it at his next press conference.

I think a big issue was that in real time, the ref appeared to wave play on, then stop and go back to it. Perfectly entitled to do so, of course, but it meant that people in the stadium, commentary and most fans had already made a split decision on it. For a lot of people that was "great tackle, van Dijk is a boss!" but the replay showed contact that didn't seem clear the first time around.

For what it's worth, I reckon a yellow is probably fine and if the ref had blown up immediately and booked him, people wouldn't be debating it a day later.

Also, for what it's worth, the ref had a stinker last night. Called an absolute heap of nothing challenges, dished out yellow cards for fun and really seemed intent on not letting the game flow at all. Both sides got some soft decisions against them I think.

Widdensushi

Happy to see that the United game is not till Sunday, with injuries and the team looking ran out after 97minutes last night they will need the chance to recover. Did the injury time seem a lot to anyone else last night? No injuries as such and 3min (I think) in the first half and 4 in the second seems to be more than you would have in a pl game.

Thud

gimli2112 wrote: »

The tension of the result and the ridiculous tv commentary heightened the anxiety and may have lead you to believe otherwise.

The RTE lads were commentating on a different game, they started going on about tired forwards at one stage and then we had 3 counter attacks with decent chances in about 5mins

rob316

Has De Laurentis been on saying we should be kicked out of the CL yet?

citytillidie

Demosthenese wrote: »

Surprised they have time - they need to fill the tanks of their Triple Decker bus for Sunday ... it's basically their best chance of the year to spoil our party. Fingers crossed we turn in a performance like last nights!

They were very quiet when Bradsley did the same thing to the cube last week, in fact that was worse as Bradsley did not even win the ball, and a free kick was not even awarded :pac:

Demosthenese

citytillidie wrote: »

Man Utd fans trying to compare Salah/Ramos to VVD lol

Surprised they have time - they need to fill the tanks of their Triple Decker bus for Sunday ... it's basically their best chance of the year to spoil our party. Fingers crossed we turn in a performance like last nights!

ThunbergsAreGo

I love Alisson

citytillidie

Man Utd fans trying to compare Salah/Ramos to VVD lol

gimli2112

Just thinking of the VVD challenge. Obviously rival fans are convinced it should have been a red while we, as usual, hold a more balanced view. I would say however Sean Dyche will have fun if he's asked about it at his next press conference.

sideswipe

5starpool wrote: »

Essentially we'll gave to beat the good teams to win it anyhow, but there is still definitely an order of who we'd want to play from the teams we can draw in the next round. Here is my preference, although I await the scornful (I don't care who we get, they should be afraid of us type pointless replies)

Porto
Ajax (unlikely they will top the group but they can)
Lyon (unlikely they will top the group but they can)
This is where it starts to get really crappy and hard to choose....
Real Madrid
Dortmund
Bayern Munich (who I know are behind Dortmund in the league, but still)
Barcelona
Juventus

Very little between the bottom 5 above really, just slight personal opinion on who we'd have the best chance of beating, although we would have a decent chance against any of them.

I don't care who we get, they should be afraid of us.

TitianGerm

Here's a stat for you lads -

Liverpool scored more goals against Allison in two games last season than 16 premier league teams have managed this season to date against him.

Demosthenese

Augeo wrote: »

Midfield wise we "lost" for want of a better word Coutinho and Can. We brought in Ox, Fabinho and Keita.
Hendo, Wij, Milner and Lallana are also in the matchday squad unless injured.
A squad is always a work in progress but I don't think we could have done much more in recent windows.

Also, I reckon Keita might provide the more forward looking creativity than Hendo that you mention, I reckon that's one of the attributes why he was bought really.

There's 2 types of creative Mid one that sits in front of back 4 like Jorginho and ones that site in behind the striker like Coutinho/Erickson - we play neither

- instead we have the option of Kieta as an attacking playmaking mid. Maybe why we also play Shaq in there somewhere too.

Klopp seems to like the holding Mid type which was why we bought Fabinho - all that was left was the buy a creative type which would have been Fekir.

Hopefully we have a plan B for a Fekir type in the Jan transfer market.

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machiavellianme wrote: »

Yeah it's a pity we didn't go for someone like Maddison in the summer. He offers a bit more forward looking creativity than Hendo and could've alternated nicely with him.

Midfield wise we "lost" for want of a better word Coutinho and Can. We brought in Ox, Fabinho and Keita.
Hendo, Wij, Milner and Lallana are also in the matchday squad unless injured.
A squad is always a work in progress but I don't think we could have done much more in recent windows.

Also, I reckon Keita might provide the more forward looking creativity than Hendo that you mention, I reckon that's one of the attributes why he was bought really.

yourdeadwright

5starpool wrote: »

Essentially we'll gave to beat the good teams to win it anyhow, but there is still definitely an order of who we'd want to play from the teams we can draw in the next round. Here is my preference, although I await the scornful (I don't care who we get, they should be afraid of us type pointless replies)

Porto
Ajax (unlikely they will top the group but they can)
Lyon (unlikely they will top the group but they can)
This is where it starts to get really crappy and hard to choose....
Real Madrid
Dortmund
Bayern Munich (who I know are behind Dortmund in the league, but still)
Barcelona
Juventus

Very little between the bottom 5 above really, just slight personal opinion on who we'd have the best chance of beating, although we would have a decent chance against any of them.

Keep away from Barcerlona ,and Juve and we will be fine

machiavellianme

Demosthenese wrote: »

In the big games Hendo's work is noticed - its actually the smaller games where we have buckets of possession and he needs to be more of a playmaker than holding Mid that he looks out of place at times. Huge expectation on him too.

Yeah it's a pity we didn't go for someone like Maddison in the summer. He offers a bit more forward looking creativity than Hendo and could've alternated nicely with him.

TitianGerm

charolais0153 wrote: »

We were back to the wall for a ten minute period around the 70th minute.

All huff and puff. In those 10 minutes but teams gave the ball away a lot and attacked with the defenders coming out on top.

5starpool

Essentially we'll gave to beat the good teams to win it anyhow, but there is still definitely an order of who we'd want to play from the teams we can draw in the next round. Here is my preference, although I await the scornful (I don't care who we get, they should be afraid of us type pointless replies)

Porto
Ajax (unlikely they will top the group but they can)
Lyon (unlikely they will top the group but they can)
This is where it starts to get really crappy and hard to choose....
Real Madrid
Dortmund
Bayern Munich (who I know are behind Dortmund in the league, but still)
Barcelona
Juventus

Very little between the bottom 5 above really, just slight personal opinion on who we'd have the best chance of beating, although we would have a decent chance against any of them.

gimli2112

The only time Napoli looked dangerous was when they caught us on the break. Leaving aside we gave up a gilt edged chance at the death they never looked like scoring when we let them come on to us. Liverpool on the other hand had (at least near the end) 25 scoring opportunities, some of these were 1/2 chances but others should have been converted. This happens but you wouldn't be confident if you were playing them next.

The tension of the result and the ridiculous tv commentary heightened the anxiety and may have lead you to believe otherwise.