Base price wrote: » One problem I see is that the BVD scheme has put a floor on FR bull calves of €50 from memory. Get as many on the boat and JE/JEx's get their own one way ticket. Edit: BVD compensation is €30/hd.
Bass Reeves wrote: » Ya I read that rubbish talking about processors needing to accept heavier carcasses and to work better with them. Load of rubbish TBH. All farm,ers have to do do is pay less to dairy men for there calves and not buy JE, JEx and extreme Ho cattle. Market will sort it self over time
Base price wrote: » Derek Deane former IFA livestock chairman calls for targeted cull of dairy bull calves:https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/agri-business/top-suckler-farmer-calls-for-targeted-cull-of-dairy-bull-calves-37422436.html
Bass Reeves wrote: » Electricity used at night has virtually no carbon footprint. Electricity generation is determinded by max demand usage. Max demand is is from 6-8pm when everybody gets home and puts on the dinner, the heating and the light as well as farmers milking cows etc etc. This is why night rate electricity is so cheap. You cannot turn off power statsions at best you can reduce them down to a lower running rate. At night less than 50% of electricity generated is used produvtively. As lots of shops stay open beyond 6pm and you also have most shops and business use high efficent LED lighting for cost efficiency. It is possible taht the equivlent of a 60 watt bulb is lighting a lot of those shops you see.
Bass Reeves wrote: » The government can only deal with carbon the way it is internationally calculated. It is immaterial in reality how much a dairy cow or suckler cow really cause on a carbon footprint. It is what it is internationally calculated at. Look at it from a national economic point of view. A suckler cow produces a weanling at the end of the year that on average is worth across the sector 6-800 euro. A dairy cow produces about 2K in milk and a weanling that is worth 3-400 on average. There is about 3 time the return on the same carbon footprint.
Bass Reeves wrote: The government can only deal with carbon the way it is internationally calculated. It is immaterial in reality how much a dairy cow or suckler cow really cause on a carbon footprint. It is what it is internationally calculated at. Look at it from a national economic point of view. A suckler cow produces a weanling at the end of the year that on average is worth across the sector 6-800 euro. A dairy cow produces about 2K in milk and a weanling that is worth 3-400 on average. There is about 3 time the return on the same carbon footprint.
Grueller wrote: » On the whole carbon footprint thing, I drove up the main street of my local town at 8:15 last night. Every shop front had external lighting on the shop front, heavily lighted displays in the windows and internal lighting on. They are all left on at night from closing time at 6:00pm to 9:00am. Yet my cows belching are the biggest environmental hazard out there. I believe in the tooth fairy too.
Bullocks wrote: » Leaves us tripping over ourselves to pay 265 for jersey bull calves ?:D
Mac Taylor wrote: » Accordingly to the FJ a free Jersey calf should come with a payment of €165:D (So says kepak) Where does that leave us!!
Keepgrowing wrote: » It’s very important the country isn’t covered in dairy farms. Mixed enterprises in an areas keep communities alive. Beef farming will continue but the raw material will be from the dairy herd. That will put it up the dairy farmers to provide better quality calves
Bullocks wrote: » I don't think it's fair calling dairy farmer's greedy. I wonder if milk was 12c and beef was €10 per kilo what would us sucklers do about helping the milk lads?
Keepgrowing wrote: » Or just leave it as is, cause that’s working. Why go down the “greedy dairy farmer” route?
TITANIUM. wrote: » Or we could reintroduce the quotas and force all those greedy dairy farmers to reduce there numbers. Now that would put a nice dent in our Canon Footprint.
Base price wrote: » A letter to the editor in response to the above article. More interesting reading -https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/comment/letter-to-the-editor-suckler-farmers-need-supports-while-farm-leaders-devise-a-soft-landing-for-the-sector-37398280.html
Sheep breeder wrote: » A good man to tank about sucklers and he involved in a share dairy farming.
Grueller wrote: » That man should be a spokesperson for the farm organisations.
Base price wrote: » Here is the link to the article by Darragh McCullough. It's interesting reading -https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/comment/darragh-mccullough-its-time-to-park-our-emotions-and-debunk-the-myths-about-suckler-farming-37373296.html
Water John wrote: » Make even better sense if beef production was integrated with dairy. There would be no need for the suckler cow. Look at all the breeds and crosses that could provide a good calf with beef potential. That would massively reduce the carbon footprint.
Water John wrote: » Are you saying beef breeds or Fr cross, often multiple suckling?
