Amirani wrote: » 1. It was less than 24 hours ago 2. They were wearing balaclavas People were abused outside of work during the water protests, that's not "nothing".
suicide_circus wrote: » Paul Murphy's constituency office in Tallaght looked empty when I walked past it last week. Not a single homeless family in there from what I could see I wonder how the police force would behave in whatever irish communist paradise Paul would rule over if he came to power? Stasi informants in every house and a KGB re education camp in the Phoenix park no doubt
PlaneSpeeking wrote: » jam_mac_jam wrote: » No attacks though.. attempted doxing... so nothing then. Yeah let's wait for the idiots to succeed eh ? Jesus - "full time scum defender" was never a career choice when I was a girl.
jam_mac_jam wrote: » No attacks though.. attempted doxing... so nothing then.
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » I really don’t see the big deal here. Any other country they would have been booted out weeks ago using force. Time for people to start respecting the law in this country.
jam_mac_jam wrote: » muddypaws wrote: » jam_mac_jam wrote: » While I completely agree that the Garda have to do their job. Which is to uphold any court order to evict them. I find the wearing of balaclavas and the presence of private security very sinister indeed. I completely agree. What kind of society are we living in where upholders of law and order have to hide their identity to keep themselves and their families safe. Very sinister and the use of intimidation against people doing their job needs to be addressed properly. Keep their families safe... not hysterical at all.
muddypaws wrote: » jam_mac_jam wrote: » While I completely agree that the Garda have to do their job. Which is to uphold any court order to evict them. I find the wearing of balaclavas and the presence of private security very sinister indeed. I completely agree. What kind of society are we living in where upholders of law and order have to hide their identity to keep themselves and their families safe. Very sinister and the use of intimidation against people doing their job needs to be addressed properly.
jam_mac_jam wrote: » While I completely agree that the Garda have to do their job. Which is to uphold any court order to evict them. I find the wearing of balaclavas and the presence of private security very sinister indeed.
Deleted User wrote: » Were the private security not there to carry out a Court order and evict the protesters, with the Gardai there to ensure things were carried out legally?
NuMarvel wrote: » The court order was issued to the occupiers to vacate the premises. Non-compliance with that becomes a matter for the Gardaí or other state officers, not private individuals. I don't see how the Gardaí have the right or authority to farm that role out to private, unidentified, individuals and in the process facilitate breaches of the road traffic act and private security services act.
10000maniacs wrote: » If somebody owns a property lock stock and barrel, what is the problem? Lefties don't get the ownership concept. Everything to them is fair game if it is not nailed down.
Deleted User wrote: » Is it not the Sherrif rather than the Gardai who execute these warrants?
AlekSmart wrote: » The Gardai are not "farming" anything out. The Court Orders,in this instance,would have been accquired (at considerable expense) by the property Owner (Who need NOT always be a Landlord). Once in possession of the relevant orders,it is then the owners responsibility to seek to enforce the Court Order,usually carried out by Bailiffs,or in certain circumstances The City Sheriff. The presence of the Gardai is to ensure the Court Order is complied with peacefully,and in accordance with the Law. Had the individuals not been in breach of the Court Order,the other breaches you cite would not have occurred. All of that being said,this stuff tends to come in cycles,and usually featuring a familiar cast of performers....http://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-squat-2417129-Nov2015/
10000maniacs wrote: » Jeez, liberal lefties like Murphy make me want to hurl. Its very easy to stand on top of a mountain of delusion and squalk your own moral perfection to the whole world when other people have to pay for it. But when they have to pay for it, that's when the rubber hits the road.
PlaneSpeeking wrote: » Yeah let's wait for the idiots to succeed eh ? Jesus - "full time scum defender" was never a career choice when I was a girl.
guylikeme wrote: » Surprised there wasnt a thread. Maybe there's just no shock factor any more to what happens. Anyways..without debating who is right or wrong on this, id like to hear why Gardai wore Balacalavas. Seems a little overdone. I am of course coming in late to all this, fill me in if i'm missing obvious detail.
Lux23 wrote: » This was absolutely appalling. The Gardai should not be acting as a private security force for landlords nevermind turning up wearing balaclavas. I haven't been involved in these protests at all, but I will attend one if I can.
guylikeme wrote: » I guess that the same was thought about the tank man in China. Rosa Parks on that bus. Numerous other examples. Raising awareness of failed policies does achieve these things bit by bit.
Lux23 wrote: » So you're happy that public funding is going into private landlord's pockets rather than fund social or affordable housing? And Paul Murphy pays as much tax as you do, probably more.
Hurrache wrote: » And there we go. In fairness it took a lot longer than I was expecting for this zinger to be posted.
knipex wrote: » You are either woefully ignorant of what occurred or a troll. If someone occupied your house, and you went to the cost of going to court and getting an eviction order woudl you not expect it to be enforced ??
riffmongous wrote: » 10000maniacs wrote: » If somebody owns a property lock stock and barrel, what is the problem? Lefties don't get the ownership concept. Everything to them is fair game if it is not nailed down. And righties don't seem to get the concept of having a housing and rental bubble, they'll be well able to bitch afterwards though of course
seamus wrote: » jam_mac_jam wrote: » While I completely agree that the Garda have to do their job. Which is to uphold any court order to evict them. I find the wearing of balaclavas and the presence of private security very sinister indeed. It probably feels sinister because there are cultural connotations in Ireland about the balaclava. This doesn't exist in other countries. It's SOP for police units where necessary to wear balaclavas to protect themselves from revenge attacks. It might looks sinister, but it does the job. The Gardai use them all the time. As has been mentioned, the Gardai do not carry out evictions. Their purpose was to ensure that there were no public order incidents while the eviction was happening. The landlord would have notified the Gardai that this was happening, and the Gardai would have decided if attendance was necessary. It's not standard for evictions, but they will usually provide support if the landlord requests it. The Gardai's duty while there is protect everyone, not just the people carrying out the eviction. Heavy-handed landlords have in the past been arrested for assault while carrying out an eviction with Garda support. There is no law that compels a person to expose their face in public, the hired goons are perfectly entitled to cover their face while in public and while in the property. The legislation covering security services, does not apply to this kind of activity. The hired goons carrying out the eviction are not required to have any training nor carry any ID.
RWCNT wrote: » What do you mean? What is "it" and who has to pay for it? Are you suggesting that Paul Murphy doesn't pay any tax on his 90 odd grand salary?
Lux23 wrote: » What zinger? Ignorant f**k.
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