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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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bobmalooka

muddle84 wrote: »

Ed McGreal Confirmed that rule is in the rule book and that it is unique to LGFA. Seems like a crazy crazy rule.

The rule allowing players who don’t play for county to be banned is ridiculous, be interesting to see if it’s enforcable or has ever been used.

The rule used to ban the club (288) appears to apply to members only - you’d expect that’s a solid basis for an appeal.

No matter what the real reasons are for the 8 players leaving - the clubs need to takes long hard look at who they send to these meetings.

Ridiculous hot headed stuff that will have long lasting serious consequences for ladies football in Mayo.

statto25

This was just announced...

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2018/08/23/4160809-plans-for-new-mayo-gaa-training-centre-at-lough-lannagh/

Sounds very interesting and hopefully it doesnt take as long as the current Swimming Pool project!

muddle84

Green&Red wrote: »

yop wrote: »

The fact that the club reps voted to kick out Carnacon stinks of jealousy. Remember it was the LGFA County Board (some lads don't seem to have the IQ to distinguish between the men and the women) who proposed the sanction, but it was the actual clubs who voted for it. They could have voted against it and shown that what the Co Board was doing was ridiculous.

And I know what AudioSlaven is saying means that Carnacon as a club then got themselves involved is why they are been punished, but the Hollymount and Mayo Ladies captain also walked away and gets no sanction stinks tbh.

It won't end well.

I heard a first hand report of what happened at the county board meeting.
Basically it was brought up about clubs paying their dues, apparently each club is required to cover costs for the county team (or at least thats what i took from the account, either way clubs have to pay) and the only club not to pay was Carnacon.
They spoke about the issue of player welfare and stated there was an independent review done of the mayo ladies (don't know by who) and there were no issues of player welfare identified
Then towards the end of the meeting someone said from the floor "is this what we're teaching girls in Mayo, thats if you get dropped that this is the way you behave". A discussion followed about how Cora and at least one other Carnacon player were told they didn't have 60 minutes in them and that this was what led to the walkout.
It was discussed banning the girls for 6 months (I think 6) under a rule which states that you must play for your county (I would think this is a strange rule to have in but this is how it was relayed to me) but they decided that this would be severe on the younger players (who would miss college games) who they determined had followed the lead of the older players, so instead they came up with this rule 288 and bringing the game into disrepute
Hollymount rep abstained and I'm not sure who the second vote against it was. Carnacon had sent some lad who had never been to a CB meeting previously, poor fecker.

I don't know anyone on the CB other than this girl and it was her first meeting also. I'm sure lots of them have an axe to grind. I'd also get the impression that there is no love lost between Sarah Rowe and Cora (Just my opinion). Interestingly there was no rep from Kilmoremoy at the meeting.

It seems from the outside that the Carnacon ladies would like to rule the roost. You can't have players dictating who is on the team or sulking when they are dropped. The player welfare "issue" looks more like a red herring everyday.

I said it after the AIF last year, Cora destroyed Mayo's chances that day, insisting everything went through her, you could hear her pitch side.
Its time she either accepted a part time role or let the team move on without her and if that means without the Carnacon contingent then it's a pity but so be it, it'll be a loss for both sides.

I also doubt the ban will stand up by the sounds of it

Ed McGreal Confirmed that rule is in the rule book and that it is unique to LGFA. Seems like a crazy crazy rule.

monkeyman

What a mess. If it is simply down to not being on the starting team, that is shocking. But the reactions from both sides has been worse.

This could interesting!

Off The Ball Roadshow in Croke Park on Thursday before AI Final.

We’ve an all-star line-up including Jim McGuinness, Aidan O’Shea, Kieran McGeeney, Cora Staunton and James Horan with more big names to be announced!

Green&Red

yop wrote: »

The fact that the club reps voted to kick out Carnacon stinks of jealousy. Remember it was the LGFA County Board (some lads don't seem to have the IQ to distinguish between the men and the women) who proposed the sanction, but it was the actual clubs who voted for it. They could have voted against it and shown that what the Co Board was doing was ridiculous.

And I know what AudioSlaven is saying means that Carnacon as a club then got themselves involved is why they are been punished, but the Hollymount and Mayo Ladies captain also walked away and gets no sanction stinks tbh.

It won't end well.

I heard a first hand report of what happened at the county board meeting.
Basically it was brought up about clubs paying their dues, apparently each club is required to cover costs for the county team (or at least thats what i took from the account, either way clubs have to pay) and the only club not to pay was Carnacon.
They spoke about the issue of player welfare and stated there was an independent review done of the mayo ladies (don't know by who) and there were no issues of player welfare identified
Then towards the end of the meeting someone said from the floor "is this what we're teaching girls in Mayo, thats if you get dropped that this is the way you behave". A discussion followed about how Cora and at least one other Carnacon player were told they didn't have 60 minutes in them and that this was what led to the walkout.
It was discussed banning the girls for 6 months (I think 6) under a rule which states that you must play for your county (I would think this is a strange rule to have in but this is how it was relayed to me) but they decided that this would be severe on the younger players (who would miss college games) who they determined had followed the lead of the older players, so instead they came up with this rule 288 and bringing the game into disrepute
Hollymount rep abstained and I'm not sure who the second vote against it was. Carnacon had sent some lad who had never been to a CB meeting previously, poor fecker.

I don't know anyone on the CB other than this girl and it was her first meeting also. I'm sure lots of them have an axe to grind. I'd also get the impression that there is no love lost between Sarah Rowe and Cora (Just my opinion). Interestingly there was no rep from Kilmoremoy at the meeting.

It seems from the outside that the Carnacon ladies would like to rule the roost. You can't have players dictating who is on the team or sulking when they are dropped. The player welfare "issue" looks more like a red herring everyday.

I said it after the AIF last year, Cora destroyed Mayo's chances that day, insisting everything went through her, you could hear her pitch side.
Its time she either accepted a part time role or let the team move on without her and if that means without the Carnacon contingent then it's a pity but so be it, it'll be a loss for both sides.

I also doubt the ban will stand up by the sounds of it

charlie14

yop wrote: »

The fact that the club reps voted to kick out Carnacon stinks of jealousy. Remember it was the LGFA County Board (some lads don't seem to have the IQ to distinguish between the men and the women) who proposed the sanction, but it was the actual clubs who voted for it. They could have voted against it and shown that what the Co Board was doing was ridiculous.

And I know what AudioSlaven is saying means that Carnacon as a club then got themselves involved is why they are been punished, but the Hollymount and Mayo Ladies captain also walked away and gets no sanction stinks tbh.

It won't end well.

From the statement by Peter Leahy after the Cavan game of the 12 who left the panel, 3 wrote to the liaison officer and cited personal reasons for leaving the squad with 1 other giving no reason.
The problem for Carnacon from that statement is that it appears it was the Carnacon club secretary on behalf of the club that withdrew the other 8.
In other words 4 withdrew personally whereas the 8 from Carnacon was a club decision to withdraw their players.

PressRun

The decision won't hold up on appeal. Totally headless stuff that makes the county board look ridiculous.

statto25

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'm talking specifically about Cora Stantoun and her legacy, not the actions of the others or how the others have come out of all this.

Stantoun is the most prolific footballer of a generation.

Yet she will have bowed out of inter county, and possibly club football, in a most ignominious manner.

No big hyped last game, no Mayo News souvenir pullout, no national or local media waxing lyrical about her career, nothing.

This is a Tiger Woods wrapping his SUV around a tree back in 2009 type moment.

im not disputing Coras legacy on the game Fr.Tod. If the rumours and hearsay are true regarding this incident then its very hard to have any sympathy for Coras and her lack of a send-off which is why I chose to mention the others not involved who are now directly impacted by this ban.

yop

The fact that the club reps voted to kick out Carnacon stinks of jealousy. Remember it was the LGFA County Board (some lads don't seem to have the IQ to distinguish between the men and the women) who proposed the sanction, but it was the actual clubs who voted for it. They could have voted against it and shown that what the Co Board was doing was ridiculous.

And I know what AudioSlaven is saying means that Carnacon as a club then got themselves involved is why they are been punished, but the Hollymount and Mayo Ladies captain also walked away and gets no sanction stinks tbh.

It won't end well.

irishgeo

Audioslaven wrote: »

just caught the end of newstalk but because carnacon club notified the Mayo manager the players were leaving brought the club into the issue and as a result they got the whipping.

Someone didn't read the rule book cover to cover.

[Deleted User]

statto25 wrote: »

its the players who had no involvement in this at all that i feel sorry for. Trained all year and now punished because of the actions of 8 of their county players.

I'm talking specifically about Cora Stantoun and her legacy, not the actions of the others or how the others have come out of all this.

Stantoun is the most prolific footballer of a generation.

Yet she will have bowed out of inter county, and possibly club football, in a most ignominious manner.

No big hyped last game, no Mayo News souvenir pullout, no national or local media waxing lyrical about her career, nothing.

This is a Tiger Woods wrapping his SUV around a tree back in 2009 type moment.

Audioslaven

just caught the end of newstalk but because carnacon club notified the Mayo manager the players were leaving brought the club into the issue and as a result they got the whipping.

km79

Please tell me ye are all aware that is a joke account

The tweet before it refers to the women’s county board as the c*nty Board

statto25

seligehgit wrote: »

km79 wrote: »

Banniltubber source

Ah yikes it's all gone crazy.

Harsh initial decision but now the Ballintubber lads may withdraw.

Ah stop lads have ye all lost the plot. There is more chance of the pope being announced on Rochfords backroom team.

seligehgit

km79 wrote: »

Banniltubber source

Ah yikes it's all gone crazy.

Harsh initial decision but now the Ballintubber lads may withdraw.

km79

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Get the popcorn out

Banniltubber source

blinding

Cora's head went when she went down under . Can happen I suppose .

Bunny Colvin

muddle84 wrote: »

Jesus its gone mad altogether

Check out @MayoAreBack’;s Tweet: https://twitter.com/MayoAreBack/status/1032314498080755712?s=09

Get the popcorn out

statto25

muddle84 wrote: »

Jesus its gone mad altogether

Check out @MayoAreBack’;s Tweet:
https://twitter.com/MayoAreBack/status/1032314498080755712?s=09

Absolute scutter

muddle84

Jesus its gone mad altogether

Check out @MayoAreBack’;s Tweet:

https://twitter.com/MayoAreBack/status/1032314498080755712?s=09

[Deleted User]

I never understand why some older players are so opposed to be used as impact subs (thinking of you Mort).

The fact is your legs are not as good as they were for 70 minutes, but coming on as an impact sub means that for the 10/15 minutes when you are on you have better legs than the rest and if you are a scoring player it gives you the chance to save the day in glory.

seligehgit

Carnacon have 5 days to appeal the decision according to Edwin McGreal.

PARlance

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Can someone give me even a brief reason as to why they stepped down?

The ladies? I'm not in the know but the rumour I've heard is that management wanted to use Cora less / as an impact sub etc and Cornacon wasn't happy.

The Talking Bread

Can someone give me even a brief reason as to why they stepped down?

ProudDUB

Hi Cora.

jmayo

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

What a shocking demise to Cora Staunton's glittering football career.

Cora Staunton has a huge legacy and is seen as one of the greatest ever female footballers.
How many years service has she given Mayo ?
How many titles both for club and intercounty has she played a prominent part in bringing to the county?

She is so desirable as a footballer that even when in her mid thirties she was signed by a semi professional club in a different sport.

The county board on the other hand is seen as a cack handed organisation that never really looked after the players.

PressRun

Total nonsense throwing a club out because some players chose to walk away from the county team. Nobody has to play for the county. Nobody is tied to the Mayo team or owes them anything. Neither players nor clubs should be punished for walking away. Will the clubs of the other players who walked away be given similar treatment?

VonZan

franklyon wrote: »

Agreed. Why punish a whole club for the perceived wrong doings of a few players? So does this mean if AOS and the rest of the Breaffy contingent refuse to play for Mayo then the club would get kicked out of the league? Yes I know the GAA and Ladies GAA are seperate just a hypothetical question.

Seems very harsh on the other club players, to be honest I see a court case looming.

The club withdrew the players apparently is the line now so that's why the club is being punished.

Is there any idea of what this is all over?

franklyon

Agreed. Why punish a whole club for the perceived wrong doings of a few players? So does this mean if AOS and the rest of the Breaffy contingent refuse to play for Mayo then the club would get kicked out of the league? Yes I know the GAA and Ladies GAA are seperate just a hypothetical question.

Seems very harsh on the other club players, to be honest I see a court case looming.

statto25

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

What a shocking demise to Cora Staunton's glittering football career.

its the players who had no involvement in this at all that i feel sorry for. Trained all year and now punished because of the actions of 8 of their county players.