Adamocovic wrote: » I agree. But I always fall into this argument. On paper I see no reason why we can't set up our team to attack and alleviate pressure on our defence. Yes we have DDG for doing that but we have the forward players capable of doing it too in my mind. Comparing our regular squads in 4-3-3: Aguero - Lukaku Sane - Sanchez Sterling - Mata De Bruyne - Pogba Fernandinho - Matic Silva - Herrera For me, on paper, we had the quality to match them. Difference was they were far more prepared/organised (used same formation throughout season), drilled in tactically and players performed to their potential. Mixture of reasons. Maybe I'm blind here but quality wise it's there for us. Now add Fred to that list and hopefully another RW and again, going into this season I see no reason we shouldn't be able to compete with them talent wise. It will come down to the setup and individual performances.
bangkok wrote: » Yes but city set the team up to attack and create chances so their defence is rarely under pressure. We do the opposite and only for de gea we would be in a much worse position.
Mitch Connor wrote: » I think the exact opposite, and think your post actually points to part of the problem rather than why it is not a problem! United need to attack better, rather than a better attack per se, imo. We have Martial, Rashford, Sanchez, Lukaku, Mata in attack - with Pogba, Lingard, Fred (apparently good going forward) to support them. As options, we have good options (though I would love an actual winger) and our manager should be getting more out of that attack. The United defence is not strong, imo. Our Goals Against is good because Dave Saves - more than his fair share of shots. He bails us out every game. We don't have good Goals Against because we shut the opposition down, our shots against and shots on target against stats are horrid relative to goals conceded. Far too often our defence doesn't stop the opposition, our keeper does. Our full backs not joining in the attack early is a huge part of our attacking problem, especially when you consider our main options on both wings cut inside onto their favoured foot rather than go outside providing width (Rashford/Sanchez/Martial/Mata). We need the full backs to be the attacking wide outlet the forwards aren't. They don't do that, so our width is crap, our play becomes congested in the middle and our attack suffers in general. If Jose provided more width via the attacking options, or put more freedom in the midfield to join the attack the full back problem would be lessened, but we haven't got a winger in that will provide natural width and Jose keeps banging on about Pogba needing to play more pragmatically. So our attack won't come down the wings via attack or fullback and Jose doesn't want our midfielders taking risks, so god knows where he thinks the creativity and goals are going to come from.
Cookiemunster wrote: » City won the league by a record margin with Fabian Delph at left back and Otamendi and Stones as their main CBs. We sort out our midfield, which hopefully the signing of Fred will do and get in someone on the RW and I've no issues with our defence.
Mitch Connor wrote: » I do like the idea of a Kroos, Fred, Pogba midfield 3 though.... But surely we could only be going for Kroos or Thiago if a midfielder is leaving. I think it would be good for Matic to be a rotational option in midfield, but I don't see Jose wanting to replace him as a first choice player. Maybe these are incase Pogba is sold.
Lord TSC wrote: » Lads, muppet mode. Statement signing RW. Let's go for Messi :P
Cookiemunster wrote: » It's alright, we don't have to play Stoke this season!
brinty wrote: » but but but ...... why ... hes old and fragile and will never do it on a cold tuesday night in stoke.... Just GFY Mr Lord TeSCo...
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » Is grand good enough? If United want to get back amongst Europe's elite there need to be changes to back four and the right side of our attack. I'd keep a fit Bailly and we can do better than the remaining defenders we have. That clearly isn't all going to get sorted in this window now.
Cookiemunster wrote: » I think his point is that Valencia would be grand at RB if we've signed a proper RW to play in front of him.
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » Another year of Valencia breaking full backs' ankles with his crosses is a depressing thought. The fella is an honest campaigner but the fact he's had such a long career at United says a lot about the lack of quality at the club, in certain positions, going back a few years.
bangkok wrote: » If we are going into new season with ashley young left back we can forget about a title challenge
Mitch Connor wrote: » Richest club in the world, why not both.
pjohnson wrote: » I still dont really get how Young is apparently regarded as the new Djemba-Djemba or something with how he is apparently regarded as the player to blame for any deficencies. I'd much prefer a new RW and Young LB than a new LB and Mata RW.
astradave wrote: » Was thinking that myself especially with Jose supposedly looking for a back up to Lukaku.. He has 12 goals and 2 assists in 15 games in the MLS
jayo26 wrote: » Lads I hope the zlatan thing wasn't that he would be coming in on loan for the winter!!!!!
