Leroy42 wrote: » The whingeing is what is to come. Just like last year. 3 years now. If he hasn't got the targets then surely he has a list. Or you know, work wirh the world class squad he has. Jebus, poor MU didn't get the players they wanted yet. He has a great chance to blood new players, try new formations, put pressure on the 1st team regulars. Instead he basically has said that without his 1st eleven its hard. This, a year late, is the lead in to a title challenge? This is classic Jose. Poor mouth, sure nobody could expectto win the league with this team.
pjohnson wrote: » Leroy42 wrote: » The whingeing is what is to come. Just like last year. 3 years now. If he hasn't got the targets then surely he has a list. Or you know, work wirh the world class squad he has. Jebus, poor MU didn't get the players they wanted yet. He has a great chance to blood new players, try new formations, put pressure on the 1st team regulars. Instead he basically has said that without his 1st eleven its hard. This, a year late, is the lead in to a title challenge? This is classic Jose. Poor mouth, sure nobody could expectto win the league with this team. "World Class Squad" Aye Smalling, Jones Shaw, Martial, Valencia, Herrera, Mata all world class players. Great point. Not even god Pep could work with some of the players we have.
Cotts72 wrote: » https://www.balls.ie/football/man-united-fans-start-panic-javier-ribaltas-shock-departure-393460 Balls have am article covering ribalta departure and the fans reactions.. Fairly evident that majority of fans are shocked at what's happening at the club
clubberlang12 wrote: » A guy that 99% of United fans didn't know a year ago takes up position as chief scout and a year later, 98.5% of United fans still don't know of, takes up a higher level job in a different club/nation. You do know this happens in business every single day right? Perhaps he left to better his career.......not because he thought the club is falling apart. What a crock of sh%t!! And the click bait posts from the likes of balls.ie where they pull a few twitter comments to try and cement their article!! When Fellaini signed his contract extension, he had United "fans" on Twitter saying they hoped he died. Does pulling a dozen of those Tweets constitute the mass feeling among United fans????????
Cotts72 wrote: » Not necessarily but posts in this thread over the last few days seem to echo the sentiment! Ive no doubt he left for a better position but one has to wonder if he had any say at united or whether his work was fruitful to any degree
Mitch Connor wrote: » Mourinho has more than his own share of the blame. And while I was VERY vocal about Mourinho being the man to get... Moyes to LVG to Mourinho... What's the commonality of football philosophy? Or the progression of an ideal? Is there a vision for the club? I don't see a strategy being employed to get United to the top. This summer just a louder example of United either failing to have a strategy or failing to execute it. A DoF is something I've been calling for since Woodward came in. We need a football structure set up with a vision and power. Woodward is a great corporate Ceo but his football leadership is evidently lacking.
astradave wrote: » Wasn’t it not only announced today? And then there was a handful of posters (if even that)talking about it
Drumpot wrote: » Don’t forget the undercover cop doing a sting on jayo
Drumpot wrote: » United finished level with a city team that goto the champions league semi finals. I would argue that their prioritising the champions league and progression was what gave united any chance of finishing near them. The quality of squads were quite different, according to transfer market website linked below the 2015/16 united squad players who were , at the time, valued over £25 mil were Rooney, Mata and Schweinstiener. City had 8 players - Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne, Kompany, Mangala, Sterling, Toure and Fernandihno.https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/manchester-city/kader/verein/281/plus/0/galerie/0?saison_id=2015 You can argue about the valuations but its a decent benchmark to work off. Unless you think just feeling like the teams were equal is a fairer way ?
Drumpot wrote: » And then lets look at money spent since Jose inherited a poorer squad:2016 City £192 mil United £166mil
Drumpot wrote: » 2017 city £285 mil United £147mil
Drumpot wrote: » 2018 city £63.27 mil United £74 mil
Drumpot wrote: » Total: City £540 United £387 = 29% difference between transfer kittys available to each manager. Pep has had £167 million more, that's nearly 2 extra Pogbas.
Drumpot wrote: » Why do you feel United should be level with City when they are spending nearly 30% more on a squad that had 5 more players more valuable then the squad Jose inherited ?
Giggsy11 wrote: » Malcolm to Roma has become soap opera now. Roma even announced the deal and then Barca made bid for him, so Bordeaux have stopped the transfer. Roma agreed 36 million Euros including all add ons, shame when we were linked with him rumored fee was around 70 million, even for Inter rumored fee was 50 million.also Sky reported that Chelsea have rejected multiple bids of 55-60 million for Willian from Barca, Barca fan/journalist said not a single bid was made. Looks like Chelsea are setting up the price for him.
Giggsy11 wrote: » Sky reported that Chelsea have rejected multiple bids of 55-60 million for Willian from Barca, Barca fan/journalist said not a single bid was made. Looks like Chelsea are setting up the price for him.
astradave wrote: » I suppose when it comes to sports journalism, each person has a different meaning of bid, for some it’s a team entering negotiations, not an official bid but saying “ we will go as high as 55m” that counts as a bid to some whereas others will say it never actually was a bid(especially ones who are the fans too) and only use the negotiation part as a bid when it makes the team look good, otherwise they will say there was no official bid
Giggsy11 wrote: » So how can Chelsea reject 2 or 3 bids then? In my mind it sounded like, Barca: We will go as high as 50 million Chelsea: Rejected Sports Journalists: Chelsea rejected first bid Barca: We will go as high as 55 millon Chelsea: Rejected Journalists: Chelsea rejected second bid. Don't think that's the case. See how Toby's case is reported, that Spurs want so and so price and Manutd are not willing to meet it rather than Spurs have rejected multiple bids.
astradave wrote: » That’s exactly what I mean, but when the Journalist is a fan of the club they will spout the nonsense that there was never an official* bid, as it makes their team look good when deals fall through. *by this I mean with paperwork and so on
Giggsy11 wrote: » Btw there is a common theme in CBs linked with us. According to Kicker we are interested in Boateng.http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/2018-19/1/tm-news--24931-8760-.html According to La Republica we are interested in Bonuccihttp://ricerca.repubblica.it/repubblica/archivio/repubblica/2018/07/14/sarri-chelsea-si-ora-va-su-alisson-bonucci-tentato-da-mourinho34.html?ref=search According to Telegraph we are interested in Maguire.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/23/manchester-united-prepare-transfer-battle-leicester-determined/ All tier 2 sources and linked their national player with ManUtd.
Giggsy11 wrote: » From day 1 that link didn't make any sense, almost nothing by reliable Barca journalists with only Sky reporting it. Looks like Sky are used by Chelsea to play their game.
Mitch Connor wrote: » Thought maguire was younger than 25, so was more on the potential side rather than closing in on what should be his peak years. Not a massive fan of him - his pace on the turn is a big worry for me - and I know zero about any leadership abilities he has. But the biggest issue, as I said yesterday, is that we are going to be trying to take away one of Leicsters prize players, with only a couple of weeks left in the window. They kept Mahrez for a year despite links away, do we think United are going to push them into selling Maguire in 2 weeks? The fact Maguire doesn't look to be pushing the cause and won't even be back at his club til August makes it even less likely. Is Maguire just a smoke screen bid? "Oh look, we offered 65million for a CB, what more could we have done?"
astradave wrote: » Personally think it’s Maguires camp putting it out there, and he is in negotiations for a bigger contract and think I seen a report last night/this morning about Leicester holding on to him. The link in this tweet says that Leicester are trying to get him to sign a new contract with a big increase in his wages.https://twitter.com/telefootball/status/1021509772934361090?s=21 Another thing that gets me is that none of the usual reliables are the ones getting briefed. Maybe they are on holidays after the WC I dunno, just something about it makes me think it didn’t come from the United Camp
Adamocovic wrote: » Not going to read too much into the stories the tabloids post regarding the transfers, most times seems to not pan out the majority of them. I do believe it is likely we will sign Willian, if it does happen not sure if it will be cash or swap deal. Would definitely lift the spirits here and going by Chelsea fans the majority online seem ok with selling him.
Giggsy11 wrote: » If it's a cash deal, yes. If it's a swap then hard to see any positives in the deal.
astradave wrote: » So Zlatan popped into the United training in LA yesterday, took over the United Instagram and says this on the official insta “'The Boss has something going on, we keep that as a secret.” :pac:
