astradave wrote: » Me personally as I have said I’ve no problem with Woodward whatsoever up to now anyways, more certain posters stating as fact that he has delivered all the top targets to managers. Sure I doubt Fred was the top target, imo Savic was but the price for him is utterly ridiculous, so we moved straight on and bought Fred
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » On transfers yes, on the business, marketinf and sponsorship side no. There has been plenty written on this topic and Woodward's lack of transfer experience has often been questioned. On Falcao, clearly he cost the club serious money on wages. Edit: and on Bale, if we wanted him we shud have approached his people months before. Throwing in a bid when another top club has all the work done is amateurish
Giggsy11 wrote: » We were interested in Fred and was reported in Jan. Savic was nothing but loose paper talk. No one will buy him for quoted price and Italian and Spanish papers have this habit of using ManUtd number to drum up interest. Savic signing won't even make any sense with Pogba in the team.
astradave wrote: » It’s just in my opinion, from watching the media/links. There were links by reputable journalists to Savic last year, obviously we purchased Fred so it backs up articles but they were also “loose paper talk” by all accounts City were closer to signing Fred but couldn’t get the deal done in January, and were linked in the lead up to the summer. They put it out, like they do whenever they miss out on a player, that they were priced out of a move. Bull**** obviously and the same with Jorginho. I do think while there was links to him he wasn’t our top midfield target. Also Savic is the same style of player as Fred, they are both box to box players.
astradave wrote: » I have no doubt that Real will go all in for Hazard if the get Courtois, especially after what Courtois said to the media, I’d say he was given assurances that they were
astradave wrote: » Sure I doubt Fred was the top target, imo Savic was but the price for him is utterly ridiculous, so we moved straight on and bought Fred, I’d actually have that as decent business decision
bangkok wrote: » Make your mind up. You said in your last post woodward is penny pinching, now you are saying falcao cost the club serious money in wages... Which is it?
JaMarcus wrote: » Hard to see where our next signing is going to come from tbh. Sandro - Easy to see him choosing PSG as he has an abundance of Brazilian teammates waiting for him in Paris. - PSG have baulked at Juve's price too, so Sandro isn't going anywhere Bonucci - I'd be shocked if he left Italy at this stage of his career. AC Milan in dire straights and not in Europe. Bonucci in his early 30's so maybe he would consider a new league Alderweireld - Agreeing a fee with Spurs will be near impossible.Alderweireld wants out, difficult to agree a fee for sure but for once think we hold the crads over Levy.. but knowing him he'd hold Alderweireld rather than get a transfer fee now Bale - Not happening. No Ronaldo, new manager, he'll be the main man for Madrid which is why he moved there in the first place. Bale will be out if Real get either or both of Mbappe and Neymar And Hazard is widely tipped for a move here too. Madrid will want a mega signing after losing Ronaldo and Bale will be in that persons shadow. He will never be the main man at madrid and his failure to learn and converse in Spanish is widely known to have jettisoned him from the squad Perisic - Couldn't agree a fee last year, can't see us agreeing a fee this year given he signed a new contract and has a World Cup "good performance" tax hanging over him now too. Also Inter back in the CL doesn't help. Plus Mourinho has hinted that it was Perisic's decision not to join us last year too. Maybe so but you'd never know Willian - Hard to see him picking us over Barcelona. Has worked for JOse beofre so if a deal is to be done, better the devil you know in Jose than Barca.. but we'll wait and see Who else have we been linked to? Any other left backs, or any backup strikers?
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » If only life was as black and white as you paint it. We've penny-pinched on some transfers and overpaid on Rooney contract and Falcao wages. You can do both you know. It isn't one or the other. You're saying the man is a genius yet United's need for a Director of Football to sort out transfers and scouting has often come up in the media.
bangkok wrote: » Smashed the world transfer record on pogba. Spent half a billion on transfers under woodward. Some penny pincher alright
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » Article on Mourinho frustration on United trying to get deals done on the cheap.https://www.football365.com/news/mourinho-frustrated-at-man-united-penny-pinching I'm done anyway. I have to leave this discussion to conclude some transfer business.
As Mullock reports: ‘Mourinho has made it clear that he needs a minimum of four top-class recruits if he is going to have a realistic tilt at the title.’
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » Not getting Perisic or a right-sided player was a killer last year. City seem to get their business done with a minimum of fuss, granted they throwing money at it but they've got a distinct vision with a DOF. United have been all over the place with three different managers with different visions, something Gary Neville has often referred to. Woodward has been the constant and maybe he should have appointed somebody more experienced in football to help out or at least suggested to the Glazers that they do the same. Liverpool's scouting is superior to ours and they've gotten some class players for good money and, for example, got Fabinho done before it was even rumoured. Again, Woodward can surely see this.I can only say the same thing so often. Mourinho has been frustrated at the pace of United's transfer dealings. He wanted deals done quickly so he could have players for pre-season last year and deals took too long or didn't happen. This season i hope we conclude what we're doing soon. Woodward isnt a football man, has done some very good things (increasing revenue) but has made serious mistakes too due to his lack of experience in football dealings over businesss ones. He's definitely not a genius, business maybe, certainly not football. How this window concludes will be interesting but currently nobody here would be happy if this is all we do transfer wise. Allowing for a WC delay, we're playing serious catch-up on City so we'd want to get our skates on. Done now.
Cantona's Collars wrote: » https://twitter.com/AFCAjax/status/1019163355507056641
astradave wrote: » Jaysus you would swear he was Ronaldo to them :pac:
Giggsy11 wrote: » He won league's best player award when he left, so yeah. He should take them to next level.
inforfun wrote: » No, he won't. He cant hide behind anyone else now with this transfer fee and salary around his neck Dutch transfer record broken as it comes to an incoming transfer Add to that an, as they described it, English salary. All that for Daley Blind is lunacy. They did well getting Tadic but this one is just to keep the fans quiet after 4 years of winning absolutely nothing. Fair play to Woodward though. Getting back what they paid for him
bangkok wrote: » Hide? When did he hide at united?
Giggsy11 wrote: » Read he will play as CB, he was superb playing for ManUtd under Van Gaal, don't think it should be any problem playing in Dutch league as CB. Also haven't read anything on wages, how much is he earning? Is it more than Tadic?
inforfun wrote: » Salaries are never made public in The Netherlands. Only reason the transfer fee is public, is because Ajax is at the stock exchange. It was Ajax themselves describing it as an "English\PL" salary. You would do extremely well earning over €1,5 million in the Eredvisie. Ajax can afford it, but if you are going to spend that kind of money, dont come up with Daley Blind.
Giggsy11 wrote: » Well it's either unproven kids from elsewhere or washed up players, don't think players in their peak would move to Dutch league if they are good .
