tom1ie wrote: » In the bus connects documentation it states: “There are eleven radial bus corridors planned in addition to the Bus Rapid Transit routes, as well as three orbital bus corridors.” Also “introducing Bus Rapid Transit, a higher quality of bus system, on three of the busiest corridors;” What routes will be the 3 brt routes, I can’t find anything in the documentation. I presume one of them will be the n4 route?
tom1ie wrote: » On right I didn’t spot that! Well if that’s delivered it’ll be very impressive. Where does it say that? I only scanned the document this morning. I’ll have a closer look later.
LXFlyer wrote: » That was the original plan. As of now BRT has been canned.
tom1ie wrote: » Hmmm. Is it though. It clearly states there are eleven radial bus routes in ADDITION to three bus rapid transit routes (brt). I cant see any mention of what brt routes they are on about. It’s a bit confusing.
strassenwo!f wrote: » Broadly, this seems to be a very sensible plan. Over the years, from the excellent pitch and putt course at the top of the hill in Glencullen, I've watched the 44B trundle the whole way into town with few passengers, but often even having to take a different route occasionally to give way to a 44B which was coming out of town, because the roads in that area were so narrow. It is to be welcomed that, under this new arrangement, those 44B passengers may probably only have to travel as far as Dundrum, before changing onto a rapid service into and out of the city centre. It probably will need a bit of tweaking, in many parts of the city, but the overall idea is good.
strassenwo!f wrote: » Thanks, Stephen15. I wasn't aware that it now does a circuit from Dundrum. I recall bringing the putter and pitching wedge into Hawkins Street or thereabouts, getting the 44B to Glenculllen, then borrowing a 9 iron from the owner for the longer holes. Overall, it was always great to play there, but also to see the panorama of the sea and the Sugar Loaf from the 15th tee. Glorious stuff. If I'm in Dublin now I'm usually picked up by someone who has a car, on the way to Glencullen, but we still see the 44B passing by on our way around the course. Places like Glencullen and, say, Naul, don't need to have a direct service into the city, because the volumes don't justify them. But this BusConects plan seems to offer an arrangement which makes sense and should suit most people. How would one get from Naul to Glencullen, for example, for a game of pitch and putt in a County Dublin location which, to my mind, is even better, scenery-wise, than Naul? Under the proposed system it would possibly involve a bus from Naul to Ballymun, a bus from Ballymun to the city, a bus from the city to Dundrum and then the successor to the 44B from Dundrum to Glencullen. That is only three changes, and if the new system works well, the proposed 90 minute ticket should do you for that journey.
LeinsterDub wrote: » To the ramparts comrades the NTA are coming for our houses!
Sam Russell wrote: » That picture is not legible. Could you re-post it please?
LeinsterDub wrote: » I'm i allowed to post the entire thing?
LeinsterDub wrote: » Story continues. If I am allowed I'll scan it.
specialbyte wrote: » This reads like conspiracy story nonsense. The excessive and accusatory use of quotes is a bit much. Can we wait until a newspaper with a reputation and real sources reports on this before jumping gun-ho into a debate?
markpb wrote: » Where was that published? What drivel.
geo88 wrote: » Is anyone concerned that key orbital routes as defined in the previous BRT plan are not well represented in the new plan? (Especially with regards to frequency)
cgcsb wrote: » My biggest concern is the O bus as it will have to be single decker to pass under the Macken St rail bridge. It'll also pass through some congested areas and I seriously doubt the political viability of up rooting the historic North Circular Road trees and the Victorian gardens for road widening. Then you've bottle necks like phibsboro. All in the context of this not being a key radial route.
marno21 wrote: » BusConnects, or BusDisconnects as world renowned transport expert Joan Burton called it, was raised during discussions in the Dail today. The usual mature, progressive approach to the issuehttps://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2018-07-10a.60
Joan Collins: I will give one example. My bus stop, the 1937 on the Tyrconnell Road, has lost the 68, 69 and 13 buses. The 63 bus serves the area every hour. We already had a service with three buses. Deputies should be looking at their areas and demanding that this consultation process be put back until at least September when people can engage properly. It is an absolute disgrace.
LionelNashe wrote: » Joan Collins, according to that link. I don't know what she's like, but I would have been disappointed in Joan Burton if it was her who said it.
Stephen15 wrote: » Are there many tight turns on this route. If the proper infrastructure was put in place perhaps bendybuses could be option for this route.
cgcsb wrote: » That means a serious upgrade to bus stops along the route along with road widening and tree cutting, a tall order. I think the O route is really crucial to the overall network and it needs to be given the same consideration in terms of infrastructure as Terenure will get.
