Roger Hassenforder wrote: » Dont forget me Joe, im anxious to stop doing something if its leading to Roger jnr going out raping at night Ill repeat as you might have missed it: A boy might take too much alcohol /drugs, and is therefore unable to (reasonably per law!) determine the sex may be nonconsensual. My advice therefore to him would be dont drink , take too much drugs whereby your judgement may be impaired How is that dangerous advice?
Silentcorner wrote: » They had swapped numbers at the end of the night club, before they all went back to a house party. The young lady claimed that she ran out of the house, after going back for her phone, at this point she began to break down, I can only assume she sat down somewhere (the back side of her jeans were covered in dirt)...she said when Rory Harrisson came out of the house after her she initially thought he was going to attack her, but he tried to calm her down, he called a taxi, at this point there were phone calls and messages firing between himself and McIlroy. She was sobbing for the next half an hour, when she got home, he helped her to her front door. The lads of course have a different account, but they are all different from one another so its hard to piece their part of the proceedings together. Oh, and she gave them all oral sex, according to them, and hand jobs...so they all did manage to perform...
facehugger99 wrote: » That wasn't what was "proven" and if you think that's the 'message' from this case you're sadly mistaken. The message is actions have consequences. The message is don't think because you play international rugby you have a license to do what you want. The message is don't treat people like dirt. Paddy Pantsdown and his simian mate are learning their lesson the hard way - you still sound like you've a way to go.
Rubberchikken wrote: » I dont see their loss of careers with the IRFU as vengeance but rather to be expected based on behaviour they admitted to which must contrast totally with the terms of their contracts.
Silentcorner wrote: » Ha Ha Haaa...keep em coming!!! You're hilarious!!! Just so I know what I'm dealing with here....have you ever bought any magic beans?
skearnsot wrote: » I can’t figure any of it out really so I wouldn’t say who is or isn’t guilty - however I will say that not al men are bastards and hell hath no fury like a woman scorned! Just because a woman cries rape - sadly in this day and age it’s not always true
FrancieBrady wrote: » One for the rugby experts: Is there anything to stop Jackson doing a Bundi Aki and declaring for another international side by playing in one of their club teams? I am thinking Italy maybe.
pjohnson wrote: » Your agenda wouldnt keep a business going. Or maybe theres enough bandwagons to keep it going.
Silentcorner wrote: » Ha ha haaa...what the f##k does that sentence mean! Ha ha haaa....
C__MC wrote: » No there is not but if that does happen, pigs will fly
JRant wrote: » The lack of self awareness here is truly staggering. In one sentence you claim the message is don't treat people like dirt and in the very next you use derogatory terms and liken a person to a monkey. Let's hope your employer is not checking your public posts on Boards.
pjohnson wrote: » You pretend to talk about commercial decisions when you really have a different reason to celebrate.
Unclebumble wrote: » You can’t play International rugby if already played for another country. This has been issue where Pacific Islanders have played 1 game for a Tier 1 nation but then when not needed cannot play for their homeland. Bundi hadn’t played at international level before. You still have to do residency (which is increasing from 3 to 5 years from 2020)
Silentcorner wrote: » No, I do not have any reason to celebrate. You laughed at my suggestion that the lads are not in a strong negotiating position. You haven't a clue what you are on about, not a fu##ing clue...it's a very tough business environment at the best of times...these are not the best of times for these two boys....but you need a semblance of commercial acumen to recognise that.
pjohnson wrote: » Jackson especially has talent. And of course absolutely no conviction, sure some might whine on twitter but he is an innocent top class out half. Winning games helps revenue and his ability will help teams win. You are focusing on hashtags without accounting for player ability.
Silentcorner wrote: » Ya, true. But unfortunately we didn't get to hear that the woman in this case was scorned, nobody testified to that fact. We only know that one minute (according to the lads) she was happy servicing all the lads (although no one knows how she managed to service McIlroy) the next she was gone, about 45 minutes later, she arrived home, in a state of distress. Not every woman who cries is faking it either!
Silentcorner wrote: » I'm not focusing on any hashtags....what the fook are you on about...honestly...it does not take a genius to figure out that presently, these guys are damaged goods, in terms of reputation and match fitness....THAT....will be what any club hoping to signing them will reference in the belief that they can sign them cheap enough...not hastags/feminazis/mobs etc etc etc... They are going to lose the IRFU appearance money, that will not be replaced. Those are the commercial realities.
pjohnson wrote: » Well this season is basically over so fitness is irrelevant. They will join up with their new employers in pre season. Their reputation is fine as they were innocent.
Silentcorner wrote: » You really haven't a fooking clue....
facehugger99 wrote: » PJ and BJ need to reconsider their careers. No personal sponsorship deals. No punditry retirement gigs. I doubt anyone's going to offer them a position in coaching other young lads. They're young enough to switch careers now - no point playing until they're 30 and then trying to get qualified in something - they should just cut their losses and make a clean break - perhaps use some of their financial settlement to fund a university course?
tritium wrote: » Nah, If Ian Madigan can get a gig in France, Jackson should be able to. Plenty of money for aninternational class player there especially one who won’t have international commitments to juggle
facehugger99 wrote: » Would it be within the remit of World Rugby Governing Body to step in and prevent other clubs offering them contracts, does anyone know? They have brought the game in general into disrepute. Would send a very strong message.
pjohnson wrote: » What? Were they found guilty? Was it misreported. Convicted rapists have had careers post conviction.
Silentcorner wrote: » Look, there is no point in engaging with you. You haven't grasped the seriousness of what has just happened here...
