FrancieBrady wrote: » I was called a rapist on this thread. Just saying.
FrancieBrady wrote: » It was consensual. How do you disrespect someone in that? .
CommandoJack wrote: » Looks like the IRFU have made their decision and will announce on Saturday. Not sure if that means Ulster's side of things is still ongoing or not. More details in a thread on Leinsterfans. Glad it's not going to be drawn out for many more weeks at least.
BBDBB wrote: » no since you ask I suggest you re-read the post and digest it and the post it was replying to before responding Id also suggest you go back to post number 168 of this thread - Id accept the adoration of the crowd for a successful prediction but Im 6 hours late :rolleyes:
meeeeh wrote: » You really think I will go searching back through the thread. You don't understand one small thing, sports career at the top level is not entitlement. I have no doubt they suffered but not letting them play is not punishment is just a fact of life. If a product is damaged and there is more hassle to repair it than get a new one, you throw it away. They are toxic, why would you bring them back in?
Muahahaha wrote: » Well I dont agree with that and the poster shouldnt have said it and Im glad you got an apology and have moved on. However Francie you havent helped yourself here either by labelling those of us who do not agree with your position as the mob, feminazis, twitterati, etc. I enjoy your postings on other topics and I know you are a passionate kind of fella but pigeon holing and throwing labels about really doesnt add anything to the debate.
Im not speaking of consent at all, I dont think anyone is here more than two weeks after the verdict, that debate has long since passed. It is their whatapp texts that is what makes me feel these two players are not becoming of the Irish jersey.
NAGDEFI wrote: » Another working title for the Paddy Jackson blockbuster, the Jackson 'Thriller' so to speak. 'Johnny's Got Us Covered'
tretorn wrote: » The woman posted derogatory texts too, three ****ing rugby scum isnt exactly ladylike language either. If the men arent gentlemen because of the texts they sent was does the womans texts say about her.
givyjoe wrote: » What in the fc.uk are you in about? Any chance you can stick all your sh1t movie titles in one post and be done with it?!
NAGDEFI wrote: » Ah Joe you've hurt my feelings.. By the way you spelt 'on' wrongly, it's not spelt 'in'. See when you get thick you can't spell 2 letter words:D:D Oh i see you edited your post Joe. Aren't you clever!
FrancieBrady wrote: » A 'mob' took to the streets with the expressed intention of trying to undermine the verdict. #ibelieveher on Twitter and FB organised the fecking thing.I am still waiting for someone to tell me what is acceptable slang for a sexually promiscuous woman. As I said, my feelings about one woman does not for a minute mean I feel that way about all women and as I said they didn't seem to mind being in the company of sexually promiscuous young women. So where they even being derogatory?
irishproduce wrote: » Only just learned your ones name this eve. A bit satisfying, only just to know all parties involved now
givyjoe wrote: » Can you please just imagine me inserting the rolleyes emoji.. on the mobile here. I haven't edited anything. Your comedy act needs some serious work.
FrancieBrady wrote: » A 'mob' took to the streets with the expressed intention of trying to undermine the verdict. #ibelieveher on Twitter and FB organised the fecking thing. I am still waiting for someone to tell me what is acceptable slang for a sexually promiscuous woman. As I said, my feelings about one woman does not for a minute mean I feel that way about all women and as I said they didn't seem to mind being in the company of sexually promiscuous young women. So where they even being derogatory?
Mrsmum wrote: » Oh believe me it doesn't but I still don't see that you are giving any advice to junior on how his 'fun night out' could find him ending up in court as the defendant. Is that not a consideration at all ?
NAGDEFI wrote: » What sort of phone do you have Joe? Is the spelling on Turkyish?:D
givyjoe wrote: » Do you have an actual point to make?! I mean are you drunk that you've felt the need to make what, 4 posts, because of one incorrectly spelled word?! Mad ted.
NAGDEFI wrote: » Messing Joe. Being silly. Apologies. I actually think i've been on the thread too long this evening and basically went a bit silly. Again apologies, and nothing personal at all.
givyjoe wrote: » I'm merely mildly irritated by the sh1t puns! Not offended.
mfceiling wrote: » When they were younger? They are 25 and 26 FFS. Who has them on pedestals?
Faugheen wrote: I'm getting the blood from the photographs of Jackson's bed that were shown to the jury (the ones that were airbrushed).
FrancieBrady wrote: Particularly interested in the Whasapp messages where they 'joked' about the bed 'covered in her blood' and her 'running away crying'.
Faugheen wrote: Her blood was on his sheets. Fact.
mfceiling wrote: » And many hadn't. My father started his family at 23. Me at 30. My brother at 38. My neighbour at 18. What's the point again? Oh yeah....something, something you are an adult at 21 and should have made all your mistakes by then.
Muahahaha wrote: » Well I never said any of what you are saying above. What I am saying is that if you have not learnt how to respect women by the age of 21 then that is on them. They went to the best schools and have good parents yet still they behaved like children. If Jackson and Olding were horny teenagers of 17 or 18 then there is some leeway for them. But at 24 (22 in Oldings case as Tretorn pointed out) they no longer have the defence of being giddy teenagers. Your argument is actually identical to Willie McBrides yesterday "ah sure they are only young lads"- at what point do you expect them to behave appropriately towards women- is 26 okay for you or should we allow them to be derogatory towards women until they are 30 because "they are only young lads"? If they havent grown up by 22/24 then chances are they never will. I feel sorry for the shame they have brought on their parents, there is no way they brought them up in this way.
Muahahaha wrote: » Je suis le Mob :cool: 66% of the Irish public dont want them in an Irish jersey again. Let the Ulster lads have them back if they can handle lowering the standards of their club that much that they take the self proclaimed "legends" back. Luckily for the rest of us Joe Schmidt is one of the most intelligent rugby managers in the world and will not be having them within an asses roar of another Irish cap. The Irish public wouldnt stand for it, Joe knows it, the IRFU know it and the sponsors know it.
flatty wrote: » Joe schmidt was perfectly happy having other players back who had picked up a drunk lady, and "spit roasted" her, apparently whilst one of their pals was trying to record it. The hypocrisy and moralising on this thread, and in irish society in general, is staggering. Its no wonder we ended up with the magdalene laundries.
flatty wrote: » Its no wonder we ended up with the magdalene laundries.
NAGDEFI wrote: » Yes if they were thought some morals when they were younger it would help future behaviour. FFS your posts are so dim! You can't even make the connection with how the lessons taught in youth apply later in life. I love the way you're following every post of mine. A bit shaken, are we by the cut and thrust of debate?
Roger Hassenforder wrote: » That "duty of care" bit would cover it. Its a massive consideration. As much as i dont want my girls raped, i dont want him to rape some other dad's little girl.
NAGDEFI wrote: » As Muhaha says when you think of men.. you think of Rory Best, O'Connell, O'Driscoll, Sexton etc. Eventually most men settle down with a partner/wife like Cronin, Earls, Sexton, Best. These boys eventually need to grow up have families, provide leadership. I don't think it's feasible to be having 3 somes with your best mate for the rest of your life. Unless we want a generation of Peter Pan's exaggerating they're sex lives and literally not being able to do anything without the best mate beside you. Grow a pair chaps and stand on your own two feet.
