Mrsmum wrote: » Look, is it that the only rapes you see as 'real' are hit you over the head types or taboo relationships types ? No, consent classes would never stop those. But lots of rapes are committed by 'friends' where guys take no to mean persuade me further. Consent classes would certainly help in this area. .
tayto lover wrote: » I have a serious culture of eating crisps.
Silentcorner wrote: » Correct, it exists to tackle organised crime, in which there is a culture of murder! Whether we like to admit that this is also a part of Irish culture is another thing. Answer me this. Why are League of Ireland games so heavily policed?
hill16bhoy wrote: » Do you believe there is a culture of racism amongst, say, members of the BNP or the EDL in Britain or the National Front in France? Was there a culture of racism in English football crowds in the 1970s? A culture of racism is a racist culture.
Bambi985 wrote: » https://twitter.com/cgilroy14/status/981289542278893568
GreeBo wrote: » Do y'all know what a culture is? You can't pick a specific minority and then decide the majority are defined by the behavior of the minority.
Silentcorner wrote: » Hang on a minute, inserting inflammatory phrases that I never mentioned is not on. By all means argue your position, but that is unnecessary. I NEVER made a claim that there was a prevalent rape culture....NEVER. I no longer take offence because I have, what I feel, is a better understanding of its meaning. I think you are referring to a culture of respect for women, I will let Irish women be judge of that. We have a culture of spoof also, like kissing the Blarney stone...
Fann Linn wrote: » They're making it up as they go along. They have a full list a few pages back of their own definitions.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I would imagine that is designed with his solicitors to make the way clear for a return to rugby.
jimbobalob309 wrote: » tis an apology all the same though isnt it.
tritium wrote: » One of the biggest issue we have is folks taking the idea of rape to be one big homogenous melting pot. Like it or not there’s a massive area where the idea of rape is not simple he’d said/ she said. This case is a great example of it unfortunately and everyone lost as a result. Better communication skills are badly needed for men and women here, preferably done in a dispassionate way without the usual agendas in play.Reform of the legal system is also worth considering, but from both sides given how abysmally both the accused and accuser were failed here. I do think that the progressive side has scored a serious own goal on this case though. Death threats and mob rule is not the face they’ve looked to shownin the past and they frankly come out of this looking pretty bad
Roger Hassenforder wrote: » Ah heor. You've claimed we've a rape culture. Ive asked you about rate of prevalence, you've nolens volens failed to answer. So lets recap for the cheap seats; Have we a rape culture in Ireland? How prevalent is it, would you think a large majority/small minoriy/insignificant number of Irish males subscrive to what would be called 'rape culture"? By all means, judge me on my respect for women; my mother, sisters, wife, daughters, exgirlfriends (except that Psycho one in Galway back in 98). Do you think Irish women are illserved by their menfolk in their "respect", notwithstanding any deficiencies in grooming, personal hygiene, or ahem, "technique".
Silentcorner wrote: » We have a rape culture, like we have a hook up culture, like we have a culture of burying our heads in the sand and hope it all goes away culture! I didn't fail to answer, it's like asking you how many decent men do you think are out there? I have no idea how large or small it is, how would I, we don't record stats on the matter, we don't know how many people go road bowling every year either, but it's part of our culture. No doubt your thinly veiled smugness will go down well with the mob on here, personally I find your posting style to be quiet odious!
hill16bhoy wrote: » Denying that there is a problem with any of this.
emeraldwinter wrote: » Where do all these people go to meet up with there like minded cultural group ?
Roger Hassenforder wrote: » Incidentally, i was road bowling last week. Its part of the culture in West Cork. Localised. You wouldnt say its part of the Irish culture. Although using your rationale you might extrapolate its part not only of Irish culture, but in fact, its European. I mean, they were Europeans bowling... On a European road... And now youre upset because your "argument" has suffered a humiliating reductio ad absurdum , and you've attempted a few under the belt blows, not only at me, but at those in the front row. A wise man once said, you know youre winning an argument with a women, when they try and change the subject. We're done.
GreeBo wrote: » Do you perhaps mean a sub culture? I'm mean it's still bull****, but you'd be wrong in a smaller way. We have a rape culture amongst rapists, how about that? A murder culture amongst murderers. And a horse **** posting culture amongst several posters on this thread.
Roger Hassenforder wrote: » What about the 1.6 million men who didnt.
Mrsmum wrote: » Had to be done and PJ is a fool not to do it too.
tretorn wrote: » What did Craig say Forgive me feminists for I have sinned and I want to play rugby, now and forever Amen. Have the womens rugby associations anything to say about the bold lads. Could some of the women fill the gap now that Paddy, Stuart and Craig are in the bold corner.