IngazZagni wrote: » The last time it happened was to an Israeli diplomat in 2010 over the assassination of a Hamas member by Mossad who forged Irish passports to disguise themselves.
Mumha wrote: » Research for yourself, Putin is behind it all. Bannon, Trump etc were conveniently useful idiots.
theoneeyedman wrote: » Someone should tell them that then. Do you honestly think the Tories and the Brexiteers give 2 sh1tes about us in Eire.... I mean they have such a brilliant track record of upright behaviour in Anglo Irish affairs and International politics over many centuries! Putin is no hero, but what are we doing sticking our oar in, such a load of crap. We have no business imo sticking our noses in this, it's part of an Anglo - Russian spat, that is acting as a proxy for a NATO-EU expansion policy vs perceived Russian expansionist policy. I have no idea what happened in Salisbury, but neither has any of us. It's as likely to have been perpetrated by the British forces as the Russians to be honest, who knows,but I certainly wouldn't be taking Boris and the Home Office's word at face value. Have we a choice anyway more though, is this a part of the PENSO club we joined last year?
Jacko753 wrote: » I always wondered why Haughey abandoned his Republican ideals and started sucking up to the British so suddenly. If only Russia adopted some of Britain's tactics their diplomats wouldn't be getting expelled from Ireland.
Odhinn wrote: » Course we will. Reality hasn't gotten in the way before, so why would it now?
Mumha wrote: » Bit of an understatement there ! A murderous thug and totalitarian dictator, who just fixed his latest election "victory". The majority of EU countries are supporting this. Do try get a second eye.
dermo888 wrote: » They should have given them the freedom of Dublin for that stunt. Blowing up anyone who supports Sharia Law is all fair and fine by me.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » Does anybody really honk Putin lost the election? That he doesn’t have the support of most of the population?
Jacko753 wrote: » We didn't expel anyone when Britain bombed Dublin and monaghan, no because Britain are actually dangerous whereas Russia are not to us that's why Fine Gael are getting so brave because there is no real threat. Fine Gael who ordered the Gardai to end an investigation into the biggest mass murder in the States history after just 3 months, because any politicians in Ireland who speak out against Britain the UVF will mysteriously put a bomb under your car the next day.
On 1 December 1972, when two separate car bombs exploded in Eden Quay and Sackville Place, Dáil Éireann was debating a bill to amend the Offences Against the State Act which would enact stricter measures against the Provisional IRA and other paramilitary groups. As a result of the two bombings, which killed two men and wounded 131, the Dáil voted for the amendment, which introduced special emergency powers to combat the IRA. It is believed that the 26 November and 1 December bombings were executed to influence the outcome of the voting. Irish Supreme Court Justice Henry Barron commissioned an official inquiry into the bombings. The findings were published in a report in November 2004. (Source: 1972 & 1973 Dublin bombings)
Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: » Have we ever expelled diplomats before?
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » And Crimea is probably the limit of his ambitions.
seamus wrote: » Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » And Crimea is probably the limit of his ambitions. That makes me chuckle a little bit, because it sounds a lot like the things that poor Neville Chamberlain continually told the British parliament in the run up to WWII. Putin grew up in the USSR. He was a fully integrated member of the Soviet military, and a highly loyal KGB agent of the Soviet Union. It would be a mistake to assume that Putin desires anything less than the reintegration of former Soviet states into the Russian federation.From his point of view, these are Russian territories that have been stolen - they were Russian when he was born and through his entire childhood and early adulthood. To say that his ambitions "probably" end at Crimea sounds more like blind hope than reason.
lifeandtimes wrote: » https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/ireland-is-now-a-fullyfledged-participant-in-modern-cold-war-as-varadkar-says-we-cant-be-neutral-36751533.html "Varadkar says we can't be neutral in a cold war" Really don't think that's his f**king call to make to be honest Its the Irish people's to make. Words like that will leave us open to retaliation
seamus wrote: » That makes me chuckle a little bit, because it sounds a lot like the things that poor Neville Chamberlain continually told the British parliament in the run up to WWII. Putin grew up in the USSR. He was a fully integrated member of the Soviet military, and a highly loyal KGB agent of the Soviet Union. It would be a mistake to assume that Putin desires anything less than the reintegration of former Soviet states into the Russian federation. From his point of view, these are Russian territories that have been stolen - they were Russian when he was born and through his entire childhood and early adulthood. To say that his ambitions "probably" end at Crimea sounds more like blind hope than reason.
Mumha wrote: » Putin ordered a coordinated attack on western democracies since around 2012, how do you know we haven't already been under attack by the Russians, through the funding of groups and through (what we now know about their hacking/bot capability) social media ? Varadkar is clearly in possession of intel that you and I aren't.
mulbot wrote: » What do we know about their capabilities? It's clearly showing now that fiddling social media happened through Cambridge Analytica, which links through the Americans, not the Russians
Mumha wrote: » We'll never know until there are free and fair elections in Russia. Intimidating or forcing trumped up convictions against your opponents, so they are barred from running against Putin, tends to negate any confidence in the Russian electoral process.
Jacko753 wrote: » A few whispers from Theresa May most probably
Cheerful Spring wrote: » This has already got debunked. There were 77 Russian candidates for Russian President, the ran two primaries and number was decreased to 9 candidates on election day. An unfair election there be only one candidate and just Putin.
Putin will win on 18 March because the system he created, politely known as “managed democracy”, removes all elements of surprise. His most credible challenger, Alexei Navalny (who in any case did not expect to win), has been banned from participation on specious legal grounds. Last month Navalny was arrested while urging an election boycott. Putin’s control of Russia’s television outlets and other media means political opponents are virtually invisible, unless they are in court on a charge. By contrast, his own public appearances receive fawning blanket coverage. There are no presidential debates, no unsanctioned opinion polls. Rival candidates do exist, but they resemble sparring partners whose task is to legitimise the process while helping the champ show off his best punches. They include Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a sort of ultra-nationalist Screaming Lord Sutch, and Pavel Grudinin, the Communist party’s candidate, who runs a privatised company called Lenin State Farm.Ksenia Sobchak, a liberal, pro-gay rights former reality TV host, claims to offer an alternative to Putinism. But her wealthy establishment background has prompted the dismissive nickname “Russia’s Paris Hilton”. When Sobchak recently visited Grozny, stronghold of the Chechen warlord and Putin ally Ramzan Kadyrov, police harassed her and gangs of men shouted that she resembled a horse. Political theatre aside, Putin, projecting strength and continuity, knows he will win by a landslide. The fix is in. No other result is imaginable – or allowable. His main concern, analysts say, is achieving a high turnout and a big victory margin, surpassing the 64% he gained six years ago. He also wants an ostensibly free and fair election to boost his international credibility – and no repeat of the 2012 street protests. In other words, Putin wants it both ways: a genuine electoral contest and a no-risk, hands-down victory. And so far, he seems to be succeeding.If this rigged election were being held in Iran or Zimbabwe or Venezuela, screams of tweeted outrage would issue daily from the White House. But Donald Trump is strangely silent. Why? Everybody knows he has a soft spot for the hard man in the Kremlin. There are numerous personal, business and political crossovers.
Mumha wrote: » Hahahahaha https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/08/vladimir-putin-russian-election-iran-zimbabwe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH7uXZQsyHI
Cheerful Spring wrote: » None of the candidates has any links to Putin. Putin runs as an independent he has no links to any party. Guardian article trying to even say there? Alexei Navalny is a convicted felon he was prosecuted many years before this Russian election.Russia law stops him running for election. And he is a shady character he is a racist and a nationalist.This part of the course though we celebrate jihadists and neo-fascists.
Mumha wrote: » yeah, yeah, sure sure.... :rolleyes:
mulbot wrote: » Stop with the intellectual responses please
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