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Eir rural FTTH thread

rob808

I made this thread for people on eir rural blue line FTTH please keep here and don't post in Eircom FTTH 66 towns 1 Gb thread about rural FTTH rollout.

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fergoc

Worrying news for those waiting for the NBP

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/eir-national-broadband-plan-exit

turbbo

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Not only that but it shows the ignorance of basic principles from those who are supposed to know about this.

Arra sure aren't they doing a great job connecting the chunthry folks to the intherwebs!!!

Johnboy1951

turbbo wrote: »

Yeah "light to DSL" was a weak point - lol. Proves their PR dept. needs a kicking.

Not only that but it shows the ignorance of basic principles from those who are supposed to know about this.

turbbo

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

No it's completely wrong. The ONT converts light to ethernet. You would think they might proof watch their videos.

Yeah "light to DSL" was a weak point - lol. Proves their PR dept. needs a kicking.

tsue921i8wljb3

KeRbDoG wrote: »

3:57 into the video - suggests the ONT converts to DSL/VDSL? That can't be right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAN_Tpkrrtw

No it's completely wrong. The ONT converts light to ethernet. You would think they might proof watch their videos.

KeRbDoG

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Openeir have released a video to explain to customers what to expect on the day of installation.

https://vimeo.com/agtel/review/252751321/e305f5c8b7

3:57 into the video - suggests the ONT converts to DSL/VDSL? That can't be right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAN_Tpkrrtw

tsue921i8wljb3

Openeir have released a video to explain to customers what to expect on the day of installation.

https://vimeo.com/agtel/review/252751321/e305f5c8b7

[Deleted User]

So in my area they apparently got the labeling wrong on some of the exchange points and that's why they didn't connect me.
The KN group contractors ran as soon as they spotted the incorrect label.

There were open eir guys working on the this yesterday and I spoke with the guy. He said they corrected it and provided me the number.

Has this happened to anyone else? My order is still open.

Passatb7

Grab All Association wrote: »

6 KN, Eir, Defusion vans at the camogie field Bouladuff Thurles. I assume they are doing Borrisoleigh exchange now? Although no new poles yet between Borrisoleigh and Bouladuff

Crews were also pulling cable through ducts yesterday afternoon on Nenagh side of Borrisoleigh.Kn van marked pole with letter L at end of yellow line outside my house today on rural backroad.

Grab All Association

6 KN, Eir, Defusion vans at the camogie field Bouladuff Thurles. I assume they are doing Borrisoleigh exchange now? Although no new poles yet between Borrisoleigh and Bouladuff

Jpmarn

Got a cold call from IFA Telecom. The generally do telephone and Internet deals to IFA members who are mostly farmers like me. They had advertised previously that they would supply FTTC only that this technology isn't common on rural roads. The Salesman said that IFA would be launching on to the ftth services shortly. I already have ftth from Eir since last October. I live in the Inch St. Lawernce area in Co. Limerick.

Gonzo

skulluser wrote: »

Just wondering what happens if you live in a green area but have yellow lines coming in front of the house? guessing no ftth unless it is for rural places outside of an rural town?

in most cases those yellow lines in green areas are just running past on the way to rural homes and you have to wait. Eir don't offer FTTH in areas with FTTC unless your already along the roll-out zone and have low FTTC speeds.

skulluser

Just wondering what happens if you live in a green area but have yellow lines coming in front of the house? guessing no ftth unless it is for rural places outside of an rural town?

Danny Boy

oscarBravo wrote: »

Everything about that seems wrong. If it's true that DCCAE wants to reduce the prices that eir charge for access to infrastructure, that's blatantly favouring enet over eir in the NBP process, which is a bit rich considering that eir's prices are already regulated, while enet's are not.

Say what you will about ComReg, they have mechanisms for arriving at their wholesale prices. If DCCAE want to arbitrarily reduce those prices, they will find themselves in the High Court.

Maybe the article is misreading the Department's intentions; I'll reserve further judgement until I know more.

Agreed - Why would the government do something like this to one of the only two bidders for their programme?

turbbo

fritzelly wrote: »

If it was still a public body we'd likely all be still on 1mb downloads

:eek: Hope you don't actually believe that!!
Eircom and Eir have been bought and sold 7/8 times since becoming a private company. How many CEOs has it given golden handshakes too? Whilst concentrating on share price Eircon has underinvested for decades.

cnocbui

This reminds me a bit of something that recently happened in Australia. Telstra, the equivalent of Eir, have the most comprehensive mobile network, having built towers in less densely populated rural locations, probably at a loss, in order to be able to offer the widest national coverage. Slimy Vodafone tried to get a free ride on that rural infrastructure by asking the regulator to force Telstra to allow them to use it.

Telstra quite rightly said you can kiss any further investment in rural network infrastructure goodbye then. The regulator, thankfully, told Vodafone to get lost.

oscarBravo

Everything about that seems wrong. If it's true that DCCAE wants to reduce the prices that eir charge for access to infrastructure, that's blatantly favouring enet over eir in the NBP process, which is a bit rich considering that eir's prices are already regulated, while enet's are not.

Say what you will about ComReg, they have mechanisms for arriving at their wholesale prices. If DCCAE want to arbitrarily reduce those prices, they will find themselves in the High Court.

Maybe the article is misreading the Department's intentions; I'll reserve further judgement until I know more.

fritzelly

Danny Boy wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/new-law-to-slash-rural-broadband-plan-costs-36537412.html

That reads as "we don't care what the regulator said if it saves us money and face and screws eir"
If it was still a public body we'd likely all be still on 1mb downloads

Danny Boy

https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/new-law-to-slash-rural-broadband-plan-costs-36537412.html

Grab All Association

_sheep wrote: »

Guys just wondering how typical the situation is in my town compared to what others may have seen, trying to grasp how far along my town might be in the process.

Noticed in the latest 'houses passed' listing that Borrisoleigh has '8 premises' that can get fiber, I've seen a little work in the exchange recently but nothing on the poles so thought it was unusual. In the attached screenshot towards the south are 4 of the properties which are houses - i drive this road every day and i do not see any new cabling on the poles or any splitter boxes.

On the other side of my town is a large business (north in screenshot) that apparently is 'passed' as well (where I work luckily for this test), a request to the Eircom account manager was placed to order Fiber but she has been unsuccessful and keeps advising that she will 'let us know soon'.

Could it be that these houses/businesses are like 'test cases' and might somehow be run fiber direct from the exchange if they ordered, or is the premises passed thing just lies half the time?

You’re on the same exchange as myself. There’s a guy at fishmoyne who works for KN (near the water pump) he might be able to tell you more.

The borrisoleigh exchange is lucky to have fftc. ADSL1 installed at the time ADSL2 was rolled out to smaller villages. The exchange boundary reaches Bouladuff/inch/Ragg where speeds <2mb delivered by falling poles held up with tree branches and the slightest breath knocks off your internet for weeks. Ironically during Ophelia people in Bouladuff were getting the max 2.7mbps speed (I assume other houses were without power nearby)

Smaller villages like Pouldine (if you’d call that a village) Horse and Jockey etc got fibre cabinets. Even Holycross which is smaller than Borrisoleigh has two cabinets. Why there was no cabinet installed in Bouladuff village is puzzling. It’s not like your a 5 minutes walk away to the next house. The houses are almost clustered together.
Population of around 400 mostly centred in the village. Housing estate. It doesn’t make sense why there wasn’t a cabinet installed.

Dr. Nick

@Gonzo - Tara actually covers at least 4 parishes, very large area, not a townland. The 965 number probably includes me and NiallB thank God!
@NiallB - Interesting about Kilmessan, we're lucky not to have those issues.....

tsue921i8wljb3

_sheep wrote: »

Guys just wondering how typical the situation is in my town compared to what others may have seen, trying to grasp how far along my town might be in the process.

Noticed in the latest 'houses passed' listing that Borrisoleigh has '8 premises' that can get fiber, I've seen a little work in the exchange recently but nothing on the poles so thought it was unusual. In the attached screenshot towards the south are 4 of the properties which are houses - i drive this road every day and i do not see any new cabling on the poles or any splitter boxes.

On the other side of my town is a large business (north in screenshot) that apparently is 'passed' as well (where I work luckily for this test), a request to the Eircom account manager was placed to order Fiber but she has been unsuccessful and keeps advising that she will 'let us know soon'.

Could it be that these houses/businesses are like 'test cases' and might somehow be run fiber direct from the exchange if they ordered, or is the premises passed thing just lies half the time?

The three premises marked as green in the bottom of your screenshot all fail the Eircode check on eir.ie suggesting they are not actually live. It is not really feasible that they would only pass a small number such as eight. They are capable of running several hundred metres of cable a day.

If there is no cable on the poles I think it tells you all you need to know.

_sheep

Guys just wondering how typical the situation is in my town compared to what others may have seen, trying to grasp how far along my town might be in the process.

Noticed in the latest 'houses passed' listing that Borrisoleigh has '8 premises' that can get fiber, I've seen a little work in the exchange recently but nothing on the poles so thought it was unusual. In the attached screenshot towards the south are 4 of the properties which are houses - i drive this road every day and i do not see any new cabling on the poles or any splitter boxes.

On the other side of my town is a large business (north in screenshot) that apparently is 'passed' as well (where I work luckily for this test), a request to the Eircom account manager was placed to order Fiber but she has been unsuccessful and keeps advising that she will 'let us know soon'.

Could it be that these houses/businesses are like 'test cases' and might somehow be run fiber direct from the exchange if they ordered, or is the premises passed thing just lies half the time?

KeRbDoG

KeRbDoG wrote: »

Some more movement for the rollout in my area, the start of the aerial span and spool at the bottom from an underground duct have been connected up. Not the neatest job, the splice/distribution-box left on the ground a foot or two from the road. Maybe it was home/dinner time?
Link
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More work in my area, looks like there is a real push to have the area complete for the 14th Feb date mentioned here.
Two KN poor folks in a ditch splicing fiber on a cold winters Saturday morning;

fritzelly

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

They should be legally split as Ofcom has forced Openreach from BT in the UK. While they are under the same umbrella the potential for eir retail to be favoured over other competitors is too great.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/latest/media/media-releases/2017/bt-agrees-to-legal-separation-of-openreach

Not sure that happens, the logistics of open eir leaves a lot to be desired

Marlow

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

They should be legally split as Ofcom has forced Openreach from BT in the UK. While they are under the same umbrella the potential for eir retail to be favoured over other competitors is too great.

Sure they should. But both Comreg nor the Dept of Comms care enough to do something about it. It's been outlined to them at numerous occasions by probably every other provider using OpenEIR and those who don't. It also shows, when it takes OpenEIR to deliver circuits at 4-6 months rates to other providers. While for example ESBt and BT manage to deliver similar circuits at better rates, conditions and within 6-12 weeks to the same providers.

Why do you think, OpenEIR manages to increase line rental pricing, while Ofcom forces OpenReach to bring them down ?

Just a few pointers of what's going on.

/M

tsue921i8wljb3

Marlow wrote: »

They are the same company, but essentially been split. They're even on different floors of the building and not supposed to be talking to each other "personally" or "direct". Nor share information.

The problem is, that some staff works for both Eir and OpenEIR part time. Which is a complete different conundrum.

But alone the fact, that they're still part of the same overall company and that they're in the same building is a huge problem.

And there is clear evidence that Eir is fed data before any other partner .. more than often.

/M

They should be legally split as Ofcom has forced Openreach from BT in the UK. While they are under the same umbrella the potential for eir retail to be favoured over other competitors is too great.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/latest/media/media-releases/2017/bt-agrees-to-legal-separation-of-openreach

Marlow

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

They are the same company as far as I know. Comreg were looking into having them "functionally split" as is the case in the UK

They are the same company, but essentially been split. They're even on different floors of the building and not supposed to be talking to each other "personally" or "direct". Nor share information.

The problem is, that some staff works for both Eir and OpenEIR part time. Which is a complete different conundrum.

But alone the fact, that they're still part of the same overall company and that they're in the same building is a huge problem.

And there is clear evidence that Eir is fed data before any other partner .. more than often.

/M

fritzelly

@navi can only read the independent article but seems like a lot of excuses, never heard of apis and the likes

Gboyd

That’s interesting, that would still be good news as I’m very close to the exchange and right now the exchange doesn’t even support broadband full stop.