El_Duderino 09 wrote: » If you took that view seriously, you'd also end up arguing against the men's right movement too. I think the men's rights movement is important and I don't hold it against feminists for want of to promote their issues either.
It's not your dad's football team. You don't have to pick a side and pretend they're flawless while the other side is meritless.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Oh no no! You're dead wrong . That line of argument would be valid if men and women had no legitimate issues of concern in Ireland today. But they do. Men have genuine issues that affect them, and so do women. If you think the difference in health outcomes, education, suicide, work related accidents, treatment in the penal system, family courts, aren't important to men, then your point might stand. I do think those points are important and should be addressed so I think you're wrong on that.
johnnyskeleton wrote: Also agree. Modern western feminism is basically cultural marxism whether its individual participants intend it to be or not. Basically, the idea is to divide society over any percieved issue and then present solutions to gain support.
johnnyskeleton wrote: International womens day is about women not being allowed to vote, dress how they want, retain their genital intact etc in various different parts of the world. The stuff about mansplaining, manspreading tumbler feminism etc is silly, and its a shame that it seems to gain traction in America (and by proxy, the rest of the West). If that was what international womens day was about, or if it was about raising non-gender specific issues as being gender specific then Id agree it would be silly. But no I dont think international womens day is silly. As long as there are places in the world whose laws discriminate against women based solely or mainly on their gender, there is a need for a specific campaign for womens rights.
Middle Man wrote: » In most day to day situations of ordinary people, men and women are equal and feminism has served its purpose.
In fact, the radical feminism is doing great damage regarding the perception of women by creating a them and us situation - this vacuum creates very ideal conditions for the promotion of neo-machismo ideology.
Middle Man wrote: ...what an arsehole IMHO! Men have just as much right to raise concerns about their wellbeing as women do!
johnnyskeleton wrote: » International womens day is about women not being allowed to vote, dress how they want, retain their genital intact etc in various different parts of the world. The stuff about mansplaining, manspreading tumbler feminism etc is silly, and its a shame that it seems to gain traction in America (and by proxy, the rest of the West). If that was what international womens day was about, or if it was about raising non-gender specific issues as being gender specific then Id agree it would be silly. But no I dont think international womens day is silly. As long as there are places in the world whose laws discriminate against women based solely or mainly on their gender, there is a need for a specific campaign for womens rights.
Middle Man wrote: » ...and it's also wrong of females to raise health and wellbeing issues to the exclusion of men! ...if an international men's day is silly, then so too is International Women's Day!
johnnyskeleton wrote: » While that guy does seem to be an unpleasant sort, Im not sure that having separate awareness campaigns for men and women is a good thing. Obviously the clinical issues can be different for both, but if its raising awareness I think its wrong to raise the issue for men to the exclusion of women. I also think that international mens day is a bit of a silly idea. Its too general and as such leads to confusion, resulting in odd messages from the rubberbands about genital hygene and crying!
Middle Man wrote: » ...what an arsehole IMHO! Men have just as much right to raise concerns about their wellbeing as women do!
silverharp wrote: » he kind a looks and sounds like someone whod bully and knock lumps out of his girlfriend, he obviously has anger issues.
silverharp wrote: » ^^ from that twitter feed, one not a fanhttps://twitter.com/F4JOfficial/status/931992829982920704
People outside Stephen's Green in Dublin were greeted with the sight of the naked body of a man on a mat with the hashtag #SOSManDown
The campaign was organised by Fathers4Justice to address rates of suicide, alcohol and drug abuse in men and ran simultaneously in Dublin, London and Edinburgh. The biggest male killer for under 35's is suicide and eight men a week take their lives here. F4J is calling for a Minister for Men & Boys to tackle the issue. Founder Matt O’Connor revealed he struggled with thoughts of suicide when a bitter custody battle for his two eldest sons brought him to his lowest ebb.
tritium wrote: » I eagerly await the task force and funding to help boys and create more equal educational opportunities for them
iptba wrote: » https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/boys-find-it-harder-to-concentrate-at-school-esri-study-finds-1.3282256
Boys find it harder to concentrate at school, ESRI study finds Girls also scored higher than boys in social skills such as empathy and self-control
The Growing Up in Ireland study examined problems facing children aged seven and eight, and found that 19 per cent of boys said sitting still and listening in school was difficult, compared to 8 per cent of girls.
Wibbs wrote: » I have zero idea what that has t do with the subject of this thread?
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