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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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The last thread was nearing the 10k post limit so here's part 3.

The same rules as the last thread apply here. People seem to have strong opinions either way when it comes to McGregor and threads here tend to get a bit heated from time to time. Please keep it civil and discuss all things Conor in a mature way.

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Any "Do you even train Bro?" or "I'm an mma fan longer than you" type posts are not permitted either. They only make you look like a fool and as a result, everyone hates you. Yes everyone.

**Upate with Mayweather vs McGregor announced**

Lads consider this the one and only warning - big fight with a lot of hype around it. It brings new fans to the forum as well as the regulars so try and get along. Any trolling or nonsense and people will find themselves on a break from the forum and that applies to everyone.

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EagererBeaver

wonderfullife wrote: »

The definition of ignorance is being asked about an MMA fighter and knowing completely nothing about MMA.

It's definitely not.

What you said was:

In a nutshell, that interview sums up boxing and boxing fans.

Generalisations. Spoofing. Bull****. One fighter answering a question he was asked and you take this from it? I imagine there are a vast number of boxing fans that are infinitely more clued in about MMA than you. The only thing that quote proves is that Jessie Vargas doesn't give a ****e about MMA and doesn't want to give a ****e about MMA. Why the **** are you taking it all so personally?!

You are talking nothing but ****e here and getting ultra defensive over absolutely nothing.

walshb

Deleted User wrote: »

To be fair he has some kind of chance. Like when Haye messed his leg up vs Bellew. Floyd could mess his leg up in the first round and not be able to move for the rest of the fight, Floyd could break both of his hands, Conor might get a hail mary lucky punch and KO him. Can't be any more than 1% of a chance though, can't believe Conor is 4/1 should be more 50/1 at least :pac:

Yes, but some are giving him a straight up chance whilst disregarding these possibilities....That chance being the KO shot, and I guess some really obstinate folks may even think that Conor wins by out-boxing and outfighting Floyd over 12...

Barring a freak injury or a DQ or the deliberate losing of the fight, Conor has a ridiculously slim chance. Of course, not 0, as nothing in life is ever a guarantee really.

Subcomandante Marcos

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[Deleted User]

Fromvert wrote: »

Wonder what percentage chance do you give McGregor of winning?

To be fair he has some kind of chance. Like when Haye messed his leg up vs Bellew. Floyd could mess his leg up in the first round and not be able to move for the rest of the fight, Floyd could break both of his hands, Conor might get a hail mary lucky punch and KO him. Can't be any more than 1% of a chance though, can't believe Conor is 4/1 should be more 50/1 at least :pac:

Fromvert

Wonder what percentage chance do you give McGregor of winning?

Burial.

He could 'mute' all of us and he'd still be arguing with himself five pages later about how Conor McGregor could build the pyramids and win WWII with his left hand while holding up money with his right hand. Obsessed and delusional.

Fromvert

Street Fight = no rules
Stating one on one street fights, you seem to be adding rules :pac:

If you're in a street fight the number one thing you avoid (besides avoiding the whole fight) is ending up on the ground as you're likely to take boots to the head

walshb

wonderfullife wrote: »

It doesn't sink in your head.

Repeat after me: There is nothing Floyd can do to save himself in a street fight.

He can't bite Conor, eye gouge him, head butt him, whatever is going through your mind.

By the time Floyd even considers the above he'll be on his back getting choked out.

I'm also muting you for a) your ignorance and b) my sanity.

Vargas is ignorant and arrogant about MMA because he clearly states he knows nothing about MMA in the same interview.

You're also muted.

Quitter!

wonderfullife

walshb wrote: »

Just doesn't seem to be hitting home with you. It's a street fight! No rules....

MMA has rules. Plenty in MMA you are not permitted to do....have a think about some of the stuff....

It doesn't sink in your head.

Repeat after me: There is nothing Floyd can do to save himself in a street fight.

He can't bite Conor, eye gouge him, head butt him, whatever is going through your mind.

By the time Floyd even considers the above he'll be on his back getting choked out.

I'm also muting you for a) your ignorance and b) my sanity.

Burial. wrote: »

So when these lads say Conor has a chance you're all like "oh yeah guys look here they said he can win we must take notice". But when Jessie Vargas an unbiased boxer says it's a noncompetitive freak show he's ignorant and arrogant towards MMA. Get in the f*cking bin.

Vargas is ignorant and arrogant about MMA because he clearly states he knows nothing about MMA in the same interview.

You're also muted.

[Deleted User]

Lukker- wrote: »

In a street fight Floyd or one of his goons shoots him and proceeds to Kirk stomp his skull

Im waiting for someone to now come in with "Yeah but Conor can slip the bullets" and knockout 20 bouncers.

Lukker-

walshb wrote: »

Just doesn't seem to be hitting home with you. It's a street fight! No rules....

MMA has rules. Plenty in MMA you are not permitted to do....have a think about some of the stuff....

In a street fight Floyd or one of his goons shoots him and proceeds to Kirk stomp his skull

Burial.

wonderfullife wrote: »

Here's a list of people who, so far, say Conor *CAN* win. Emphasis on "can", not "will":

Steve Collins
Freddie Roach
Al Iaquinta
Dan Hardy
Jason Quigley
Stitch Duran
Eddie Alvarez
Brendan Schaub
Chris Weidman
Joe Rogan
Conor Wallace
GSP

But what would all these people know when we have internet experts stating he has a 0% chance.

So when these lads say Conor has a chance you're all like "oh yeah guys look here they said he can win we must take notice". But when Jessie Vargas an unbiased boxer says it's a noncompetitive freak show he's ignorant and arrogant towards MMA. Get in the f*cking bin.

walshb

wonderfullife wrote: »

Ok. In a one-on-one street fight between Conor and Floyd, unless Floyd has a weapon his chances of not ending up dead are about 0.00001%. And that chance is him catching Conor with the perfect uppercut as Conor shoots in for a double-leg.

If he doesn't hit that perfect shot that KO's Conor cold, he is double-legged onto his back, mounted and choked out. He can do zero when it hits the ground.

Just doesn't seem to be hitting home with you. It's a street fight! No rules....

MMA has rules. Plenty in MMA you are not permitted to do....have a think about some of the stuff....

wonderfullife

EagererBeaver wrote: »

a) he was asked questions about boxing and answered them. There's nothing ignorant about not having an interest in MMA.

The definition of ignorance is being asked about an MMA fighter and knowing completely nothing about MMA.

walshb wrote: »

It is not the only chance. It's a street fight, no rules. It is not MMA and it is not boxing....

You need to be a little more specific before you throw around these claims...

Ok. In a one-on-one street fight between Conor and Floyd, unless Floyd has a weapon his chances of not ending up dead are about 0.00001%. And that chance is him catching Conor with the perfect uppercut as Conor shoots in for a double-leg.

If he doesn't hit that perfect shot that KO's Conor cold, he is double-legged onto his back, mounted and choked out. He can do zero when it hits the ground.

Mean Laqueefa

sasta le

Whats the story with the video of Connor in a restaurant with watches on the table roaring at the staff thats going round on social media

Burial.

Vargas spitting a whole lot of truth imo.

walshb

wonderfullife wrote: »

It's tremendously sad to think any 154lb pro boxer has a decent chance in a street fight against anyone in the top 40 at Lightweight in the UFC.

A hail mary punch in the first 3 seconds is the only chance they have in a street fight, if they don't land it instantly they'll be double-legged, taken down and choked out.

It is not the only chance. It's a street fight, no rules. It is not MMA and it is not boxing....

You need to be a little more specific before you throw around these claims...

EagererBeaver

wonderfullife wrote: »

In a nutshell, that interview sums up boxing and boxing fans. Complete ignorance of MMA. Complete ignorance of Conor. Complete arrogance as to their sport.

You get the sense Vargas and lads like him would fancy their chances in a street fight against Tony Ferguson or Kevin Lee. It's pretty sad stuff that they aren't aware they'd be killed.

a) he was asked questions about boxing and answered them. There's nothing ignorant about not having an interest in MMA.

b) the point you've made up about street fights is complete and utter bull**** conjecture. What is the relevance to any of this is a hypothetical street fight?!

The only thing that's pretty sad here are the lengths you're going to to see angles here that simply don't exist.

wonderfullife

walshb wrote: »

You do realize what a street fight is? It's no rules at all, where all it can take is one punch to kill a man. So, it's not at all sad to think that any capable man could kill another man in a street fight. Doesn't matter what the background is of the man killed. It all comes down to the situation.

It's tremendously sad to think any 154lb pro boxer has a decent chance in a street fight against anyone in the top 40 at Lightweight in the UFC.

A hail mary punch in the first 3 seconds is the only chance they have in a street fight, if they don't land it instantly they'll be double-legged, taken down and choked out.

dashoonage

walshb wrote: »

If Conor said he could beat Usain Bolt over 200 meters there would be fanboys believing that he believes it....

Wake up, fellas. Conor is selling something, and doing an excellent job it seems.

With Ido in his corner and the McNuggetFast system he has a chance over 200m...

walshb

If Conor said he could beat Usain Bolt over 200 meters there would be fanboys believing that he believes it....

Wake up, fellas. Conor is selling something, and doing an excellent job it seems.

[Deleted User]

wonderfullife wrote: »

I've faith in him.

If he believes he can do this, then I believe him.

But if you want a technical answer, he really doesn't have a tell with his straight left because he carries his hands low. I think he'll land the left every round. I also think his outside-slips are outrageously good and his counters are very precise.

I think he can do well even against an elite defensive guy.

He carries his hands low in MMA cause of the fear of take downs, if he does that in boxing, he will get killed by Mayweather. I can't see him fighting in that stance in a boxing match. Conors striking is one of the best in MMA I wont argue with that but in boxing all they do is striking, Floyds striking is 10x better than any mma striker.

I have faith in Conor regarding MMA, but when Conor says he can win this what he is doing imo is selling a fight and collecting bank. I dont think he thinks himself he can win this, Conor has self confidence by the bucket load but he isn't delusional. He is hardly going to say "I have no chance" in the run up to the fight.

walshb

wonderfullife wrote: »

You get the sense Vargas and lads like him would fancy their chances in a street fight against Tony Ferguson or Kevin Lee. It's pretty sad stuff that they aren't aware they'd be killed.

You do realize what a street fight is? It's no rules at all, where all it can take is one punch to kill a man. So, it's not at all sad to think that any capable man could kill another man in a street fight. Doesn't matter what the background is of the man killed. It all comes down to the situation.

wonderfullife

Deleted User wrote: »

What makes you have faith in Conors boxing?

I've faith in him.

If he believes he can do this, then I believe him.

But if you want a technical answer, he really doesn't have a tell with his straight left because he carries his hands low. I think he'll land the left every round. I also think his outside-slips are outrageously good and his counters are very precise.

I think he can do well even against an elite defensive guy.

walshb

wonderfullife wrote: »

Jesse Vargas:

Q1. What do you think of Mayweather-McGregor?

A. I think it's good. It won't be a competitive fight but it'll settle doubts (in casuals) as to boxing versus MMA.

Who are these casuals having doubts? Doubts about boxers maybe being successful against MMA fighters in boxing matches?

I have never heard such a BS answer...

Not a dig at you, btw. A dig at Vargas.

wonderfullife

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

You think Conor is a better boxer than Berto?

You're delusional.

Logic fail 101.

I think he lands more punches for a whole variety of reasons.

Landing more punches doesn't make necessarily make you a better fighter. Marcos Maidana landed way more punches in both fights than Manny did. Doesn't make him a better fighter.

Diego Brandao landed more punches than Eddie Alvarez did. Doesn't make him better than Eddie.

Think next time.

[Deleted User]

wonderfullife wrote: »

It's a fight anything can happen.

Floyd might KO Conor just as quickly as Conor KO'd Aldo.

But in my book, success is Conor making it a competitive encounter. Whether that's *winning*, going 12-rounds, landing more than Berto, dropping Floyd or making him take a standing 8-count, there's many ways to argue it was a success from Conor's point of view.

My bar for it being a success is a lot higher than most peoples because I have faith in Conor.

People keep going on about the van Heerden sparring footage. I guarantee you 100% we could see footage of Conor sparring Artem in MMA over the years where Artem does really well and tools Conor up. Both Conor and Artem are on record saying they've had some absolute wars in the gym.

The point is this - whatever footage we see of Conor in training (be it MMA or boxing) is irrelevant. He's not a gym fighter. He comes into his own on the big stage under the bright lights when the pressure is at its maximum.

What makes you have faith in Conors boxing?

wonderfullife

Jesse Vargas:

Q1. What do you think of Mayweather-McGregor?

A. I think it's good. It won't be a competitive fight but it'll settle doubts (in casuals) as to boxing versus MMA.

Q2. Is there anything Conor can do?

A. Try land a lucky punch and knock him out. It's all he can do.

Q3. MMA fans will argue Conor boxed as an amateur and is a good striker, can you speak to how hard boxing is?

A. Boxing is a skillful art. You need to learn reflexes and movement. In boxing you need to learn how to move left, move right, learn to plan a few steps ahead. It takes a long time. I don't know how UFC works but I think you have a background of wrestling or jiujitsu and you fill your arsenal after that but wrestling is your number 1 tactic or jiujitsu is your number 1 tactic.

Q. Did you see the van Heerden sparring and what did you think of it?

A. I really don't care to see it.

In a nutshell, that interview sums up boxing and boxing fans. Complete ignorance of MMA. Complete ignorance of Conor. Complete arrogance as to their sport.

You get the sense Vargas and lads like him would fancy their chances in a street fight against Tony Ferguson or Kevin Lee. It's pretty sad stuff that they aren't aware they'd be killed.

Subcomandante Marcos

wonderfullife wrote: »

I think Conor lands 90-100 punches on Floyd through 9 rounds by the official Compubox numbers. Berto landed 83 through 12.

You think Conor is a better boxer than Berto?

You're delusional.