NellyJelly wrote: » The only bad thing about this show is that I know deep down Jimmy and Kim don't live happily ever after.
ardinn wrote: » She was in breaking bad wasnt she??
Cloudio9 wrote: » I don't find them credible as a couple.
storker wrote: » I love how the theme of actions having consequences continues. If Howard hadn't treated Kim so badly in Season 2, she would not have decided to leave HHM and Mesa Verde would still be a HHM client and Jimmy's copy and paste scam would never have happened. Now they're lost Mesa Verde, and Jimmy has Kim defending him, whereas otherwise he might be conducting his own defence with probably disastrous consequences.
jcsoulinger wrote: » If Jimmy never did the "copy and paste scam" then what would he be conducting his own defense to?
storker wrote: » Great stuff, thanks for posting, and good point about Ernesto. He was entrapped as much as Jimmy, and Chuck fired him even though he did what Chuck wanted. Jimmy has some huge faults, but being a vindictive pr1ck isn't one of them; that's Chuck's area of expertise. I love how the theme of actions having consequences continues. If Howard hadn't treated Kim so badly in Season 2, she would not have decided to leave HHM and Mesa Verde would still be a HHM client and Jimmy's copy and paste scam would never have happened. Now they're lost Mesa Verde, and Jimmy has Kim defending him, whereas otherwise he might be conducting his own defence with probably disastrous consequences.
loremolis wrote: » Your logic is flawed. If the copy and paste scam never happened then Kimmy would not have had anything to confess to Chuck about and there would be no case against Jimmy for Kim to defend. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. Oops, sorry, didn't spot the earlier posts pointing this out. One more thing, is the whole 'bingo' thing too obvious? We all think that jimmy is going to beat Chuck on this but it's possible that we're being mislead by the writers in order to create a bigger surprise when Chuck wins the case. I'll be disappointed if there're is not a twist to this that we don't see coming.
loremolis wrote: » Your logic is flawed. One more thing, is the whole 'bingo' thing too obvious? We all think that jimmy is going to beat Chuck on this but it's possible that we're being mislead by the writers in order to create a bigger surprise when Chuck wins the case. I'll be disappointed if there're is not a twist to this that we don't see coming.
rubadub wrote: » I doubt the duplicate tape would be in chucks house. I would have thought copying an important tape would be standard practice for lawyers. I remember in my work 15+years ago data was backed up to tape and taken home by a manager (like chuck would not have 2 copies in the same house of an important tape)
take everything wrote: » Indeed, you could ask why did Jimmy break in at all in the first place (entrapment or not) if this was common practice.
You pulled that heartstrings con job on me? You piece of ****! [IMITATING CHUCK] "Oh, my brain used to work. "I'm sick. I don't know what to do. " [IN NORMAL VOICE] Asshole! No wonder Rebecca left you. What took her so long? There it is! Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. [GRUNTING] Is this it? Is this it? Is this it? Huh? For this, you destroyed our family? You happy now? For what? For nothing! Is that all there is, Chuck? It's all the all there is? Or did you make copies? Huh, Chuck? Huh? You tell me, or I'll burn this whole goddamn house to the ground.
rubadub wrote: » I wondered that myself. Chuck seemed absolutely certain he was going to break in. At the start of the episode I copped why the guy was in Chucks house, but could not figure out how he was so sure Jimmy would come after the PI being there for several days. Jimmy seemed to fly into a rage and did it spur of the moment. I don't think he thought he was getting the only copy, he mentioned copies. Read more: http://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/view_episode_scripts.php?tv-show=better-call-saul-2015&episode=s03e02 It is one of the things that bugged me in this season, the bigger thing being how atrocious Jimmy was as a spy for Mike. For a guy with a lifelong history of pulling off many successful scams, posing as other characters, you would think he would know how to be covert.
rubadub wrote: » Also just discovered that Don Eladio is played by the same actor who played Manny in scarface!
Custardpi wrote: » If you're watching BCS in expectation of dramatic fight scenes & explosions you're going to be disappointed & would be better off tuning out & going to watch Batman vs Superman instead.
Murrisk wrote: » Well, into the third season, I officially give up on BCS. My OH watches so I have by proxy and I just... don't like it. The reason I have quoted the above is because it's a prevalent view amongst BCS fans, I find, but is so simplistic and binary. It's not a choice between liking character development or liking fights and explosions. More than any show, the reaction towards people who don't like the show tends to veer towards insulting. For me, I don't care about what happens to the characters and the show is just too slow. People seem to argue that BB was just as much of a slow burn as BCS, but that is a crock. The first two seasons of BB are like a lava flow on a steep gradient compared to BCS. SO much happened in that two seasons whilst at the same, characters were developed. Ditto something like Sopranos. These shows were multilayered, something that I think BCS is missing. To me, it reads like the writers are having trouble coming up with a story for how Jimmy ends up becoming Saul. The more likely thing would be that he was always a bit of a shyster and they have tried to do the opposite. Portraying him as a thoughtful guy just reads clunky and false to me. It also reads like they realise they have to drag out the transformation to Saul because when that happens, the show is probably over. And that dragging out doesn't work, IMO. I was very reluctant to write this post. I have read a lot of message board threads on BCS and the attitude towards people who dislike the show is mostly insulting. Likewise, the critical acclaim is almost universal, moreso than Breaking Bad, with some critics suggesting it surpasses BB! :eek: Even BB didn't get universal acclaim throughout its run.
robwen wrote: » Anyone confirm the length of this week's episode? Any stream I've started shows up just over 34 mins seems quite a bit shorter than usual, don't want to start watching & find a good chunk missing towards end
Better Call Saul (2015– ) 9.9/10 (481) Chicanery 15 | 49min | Crime, Drama | Episode aired 8 May 2017
Cloudio9 wrote: » But at the end of the day we still have Jimmy admitting to committing a crime. He admits that it's his voice on the tape. Is there a sting in the tail for Jimmy coming ?
steve_r wrote: » It will be interesting to see what the view is in a few years when the dust has settled. It's easy to get caught up in the hype of an ongoing show that can get over-praised when it is out. In a few years the commentary will be a lot more nuanced and refined as people will have more perspective.
Murrisk wrote: » Well, into the third season, I officially give up on BCS. My OH watches so I have by proxy and I just... don't like it. The reason I have quoted the above is because it's a prevalent view amongst BCS fans, I find, but is so simplistic and binary. It's not a choice between liking character development or liking fights and explosions. More than any show, the reaction towards people who don't like the show tends to veer towards insulting.For me, I don't care about what happens to the characters and the show is just too slow. People seem to argue that BB was just as much of a slow burn as BCS, but that is a crock. The first two seasons of BB are like a lava flow on a steep gradient compared to BCS. SO much happened in that two seasons whilst at the same, characters were developed. Ditto something like Sopranos. These shows were multilayered, something that I think BCS is missing. To me, it reads like the writers are having trouble coming up with a story for how Jimmy ends up becoming Saul. The more likely thing would be that he was always a bit of a shyster and they have tried to do the opposite. Portraying him as a thoughtful guy just reads clunky and false to me. It also reads like they realise they have to drag out the transformation to Saul because when that happens, the show is probably over. And that dragging out doesn't work, IMO.
Brendan Filone wrote: » Did anyone think that in the flashback dinner scene where Chuck lies about the power company turning off his electricity due to a mix-up of numbers in an address is where Jimmy got the idea for switching the addresses in his Mesa Verde stunt?
