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Eir rural FTTH thread

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I made this thread for people on eir rural blue line FTTH please keep here and don't post in Eircom FTTH 66 towns 1 Gb thread about rural FTTH rollout.

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Gonzo

GalwayMagpie wrote: »

H all,

Imagine have contacted me to let m know they are offering 70MB broadband in my area in the coming weeks, currently get 4MB with vf.
The fiber roll out is scheduled in my area, it was saying first homes connected in Spring 2017, now Summer/Autumn 2017.

I am coming to the end of my current contract with vf.

stick or twist?

you could try imagine if you don't mind paying a cancellation/breaking contract fee with Imagine once FTTH goes live. Probably be sometime between August and November by the time your connected, later than that if area falls behind schedule.

The Cush

GalwayMagpie wrote: »

The fiber roll out is scheduled in my area, it was saying first homes connected in Spring 2017, now Summer/Autumn 2017.

I am coming to the end of my current contract with vf.

stick or twist?

I'd wait for FTTH and suffer on with adsl for a few months more, I assume you're on a blue line route?

plodder

Grumpypants wrote: »

It has been saying 6 weeks for about a year and a half

"Free beer tomorrow!"

GalwayMagpie

H all,

Imagine have contacted me to let m know they are offering 70MB broadband in my area in the coming weeks, currently get 4MB with vf.
The fiber roll out is scheduled in my area, it was saying first homes connected in Spring 2017, now Summer/Autumn 2017.

I am coming to the end of my current contract with vf.

stick or twist?

Gonzo

niallb wrote: »

Thanks!
I thought as much, but never checked their site before and was giving them the benefit of the doubt.

the only map you can trust is the Open Eir one and even that has it's own set of problems such as usability and difficulty in finding updates.

niallb

Thanks!
I thought as much, but never checked their site before and was giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Grumpypants

niallb wrote: »

I saw a timeframe on Eir's site for the Tara exchange just now.
Never looked at their site before - always used the openeir fibrerollout.ie map.
It still says Spring/Summer 2017

Eir says that fiber will be available within 6 weeks.
Does anyone know how long it's been saying that?!

It has been saying 6 weeks for about a year and a half

hmboards

niallb wrote: »

Eir says that fiber will be available within 6 weeks.
Does anyone know how long it's been saying that?!

I suspect that may refer to FTTC ? They say on the same map that it's already available in Balrath, but FTTH is planned there for Autumn according to the openeir map

Gonzo

niallb wrote: »

I saw a timeframe on Eir's site for the Tara exchange just now.
Never looked at their site before - always used the openeir fibrerollout.ie map.
It still says Spring/Summer 2017

Eir says that fiber will be available within 6 weeks.
Does anyone know how long it's been saying that?!

they may as well bin that map on the Eir website, it's months out of date and only references FTTC fibre broadband.

niallb

I saw a timeframe on Eir's site for the Tara exchange just now.
Never looked at their site before - always used the openeir fibrerollout.ie map.
It still says Spring/Summer 2017

Eir says that fiber will be available within 6 weeks.
Does anyone know how long it's been saying that?!

JasonRyan

The Cush wrote: »

Thanks for that Jason, I got my adsl/fttc mixed up. I posted about Pallasgreen a few times previously having ADSL1 but not being on the FTTC rollout plan and having no core fibre connection e.g. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=95782827, http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=98937313.

No worries The Cush, as long as Eir don't get them mixed up and not push FTTH there.... ;-)

JasonRyan

Ould Mr Brennan wrote: »

There has been quite a bit of work recently around the area by open Eir so hopefully it moves along nicely as the mobile coverage in the area is very patchy. Its a huge area to be covered though. Pallas to kilteely and dromkeen

Yeah, agreed it is a large area, Old Pallas and Nicker also feed out from the Pallasgreen exchange. Although New Pallas (Pallasgreen village) have their own sub exchange, the speeds in the village are chronic.
This despite being about 30 yards from the main fibre line that passes along the N24 and has an access point at the Credit Union.
I see a good few Neville Civil Works vans with about 8 lads starting work around the main exchange the last few days. Mini digger being unloaded as I was going to work, so ducting for FTTH is possibly being laid....

Finne1993

Peppa Cig wrote: »

Are you planning to have ONT & ODP in the attic and run an Ethernet cable to your modem location downstairs?

How will they get fibre cable to attic?

Sounds like a good idea as it does look messy.

I have Ethernet cable in attic to modem location downstairs and was thinking same as yourself

Thanks

In the neighbours set up the existing faceplate for the phoneline remained in the same place, the ODP was fitted beside it, the conduit the copper cable is in was wide enough for another few cables to come through so they had no issue fishing the fibre line down.

As regards my own set up, I have 2 fish wires already going from my Eircom box outside up to my attic space so there won't be a problem getting the fibre to there, I feed Ethernet points all around the house via my existing router so I'm happy with my current set up and naturally don't want to change it.

I never had a POTS phoneline and I'm not getting one now either but from what I can make out from a few of the installs I've seen around here is that it's a completely separate install, I've seen a few cases where existing POTS lines are going into one side of the house via a duct and fibre lines are run into the other side of the house overhead.

Fingers crossed there's no messing about with my install tomorrow, there's still a fierce wind blowing here so they may not be too keen to climb any poles!!

The Cush

MBSnr wrote: »

I thought the setup with the fibre cable I've seen online looked messy as well considering....http://i59.tinypic.com/n2yixd.jpg

Some FTTH install pics

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=97182310
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=97793128#post97793128
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=97842227#post97842227

Source: NGA IPM v4_3 12 June 2014, page 120.

ONT (Optical Network Terminal)
ODP (Optical Distribution Point)

The Cush

jasper1 wrote: »

I suspect the ONT will just have a RJ45 socket

Yes, I believe that's correct, the ONT is fibre only. The existing NTU socket for POTS remains at it is.

Source: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=97842227#post97842227

Guiding Principles

Fibre to the Home (FTTH)

- The ONT (Optical Network Terminal) will be the Network demarcation point
- eircom will always be responsible for the installation of the ONT
- eircom technician will install the ONT as per the workmanship standard specification
- The location of the ONT may be influenced by the cable entry point and power availability. Power shall be supplied by the end-user
- A pre-terminated fibre patch cord usually of 1m length is used to connect the Optical Distribution Point (ODP) to the ONT
- FTTH data port extension may be installed beyond the ONT (eircom will, if requested at the time of Order, install a data port extension socket using a standard extension kit to a maximum of 30 meters)
- The eircom technician will test the line on completion of the installation

Source: NGA IPM

[Deleted User]

jasper1 wrote: »

I suspect the ONT will just have a RJ45 socket

If that's the case, then he'll need an ATA which will hopefully be supplied & configured as part of the installation.

We just need someone who has an internet & phone FTTH system to verify.

jasper1

I suspect the ONT will just have a RJ45 socket

[Deleted User]

MBSnr wrote: »

I thought the setup with the fibre cable I've seen online looked messy as well considering....http://i59.tinypic.com/n2yixd.jpg
Anyhow a question or two.
I guess the ODP is fitted in place of the existing faceplate?
Is the copper pair left if you continue to have a landline? I read that the copper cable is used to pull the fibre through ducting to the house. If so how does the phone and internal extensions from the existing faceplate work?

I'll know for sure in the near future, but I guess that the ONT unit also has an RJ11 for POTS as well.

Peppa Cig

Finne1993 wrote: »

I called into a neighbours house today and ran this speedtest on my phone, I'm supposed to be getting mine installed tomorrow. I had a quick glance at the set up, new faceplate on the wall, fibre modem and a wireless router, its messy enough, thankfully mine will be installed in the attic were none of the cabling can be seen

Are you planning to have ONT & ODP in the attic and run an Ethernet cable to your modem location downstairs?

How will they get fibre cable to attic?

Sounds like a good idea as it does look messy.

I have Ethernet cable in attic to modem location downstairs and was thinking same as yourself

Thanks

MBSnr

Finne1993 wrote: »

I called into a neighbours house today and ran this speedtest on my phone, I'm supposed to be getting mine installed tomorrow. I had a quick glance at the set up, new faceplate on the wall, fibre modem and a wireless router, its messy enough, thankfully mine will be installed in the attic were none of the cabling can be seen

I thought the setup with the fibre cable I've seen online looked messy as well considering....http://i59.tinypic.com/n2yixd.jpg
Anyhow a question or two.
I guess the ODP is fitted in place of the existing faceplate?
Is the copper pair left if you continue to have a landline? I read that the copper cable is used to pull the fibre through ducting to the house. If so how does the phone and internal extensions from the existing faceplate work?

The Cush

Mr Velo wrote: »

I'm on the Corrandulla Exchange in Galway. It's an old DSL exchange - however, it is fed by line of sight to Mervue... I'm extremely suspicious to see that FTTH services will be live by Spring Summer 2018

My local exchange was upgraded last summer for eVDSL and connected to the core fibre network, open-eir's map hasn't been updated to reflect the network fibre connection. If your exchange hasn't already been hooked up it will be in time for the launch of hi-speed broadband, sometimes the map doesn't always reflect what's actually on the ground.

plodder

Mr Velo wrote: »

I'm on the Corrandulla Exchange in Galway. It's an old DSL exchange - however, it is fed by line of sight to Mervue... I'm extremely suspicious to see that FTTH services will be live by Spring Summer 2018.

Click on the link for the core fibre network on the map, and you'll see it's not a million miles away from you there, as it goes between Galway city and Tuam. So, I imagine they will hook into it somewhere closer to you.

Finne1993

I called into a neighbours house today and ran this speedtest on my phone, I'm supposed to be getting mine installed tomorrow. I had a quick glance at the set up, new faceplate on the wall, fibre modem and a wireless router, its messy enough, thankfully mine will be installed in the attic were none of the cabling can be seen

Mr Velo

I'm on the Corrandulla Exchange in Galway. It's an old DSL exchange - however, it is fed by line of sight to Mervue... I'm extremely suspicious to see that FTTH services will be live by Spring Summer 2018.

Dr. Nick

ED E wrote: »

A 3rd party sales rep has just confused him. Ignore it.

I see what you mean, I think that's right - he was talking about FTTC.

Gonzo

superloopy wrote: »

Kn installing yellow ducting along crosstown (kerry, headford exchange) road just now. Talked to one of them and he said another 6 months for any connection. I'd say he didn't really know either way and was just guessing. He said the installation was working out from the exchange.

Anyway, I think the spring/summer 2017 for headford exchange is looking good. Finally some positive developments.

As a lot of eir cables that come from the exchange are underground it must make it easier. No tree cutting or pole changing. Must be unusual for a rural exchange to have a lot of the phone lines running underground along the road?

Anyway, I might join the 21st century this year!! Great news.

development time for an exchange from the very first day of hedge cutting to an exchange going live would be 8-12/13 months. I will expect all remaining 2018 exchanges to be started before Christmas 2017. I would argue that underground/ducting would be a longer process especially in areas like mine where new manholes have to be created or old manholes hidden by grass & mud revealed. The quickest blue lines are the ones where there is no ducting required. The final route in Dunshaughlin was completed last week and that route did not see any work until the wiring was started last week because there was no ducting involved.

superloopy

Kn installing yellow ducting along crosstown (kerry, headford exchange) road just now. Talked to one of them and he said another 6 months for any connection. I'd say he didn't really know either way and was just guessing. He said the installation was working out from the exchange.

Anyway, I think the spring/summer 2017 for headford exchange is looking good. Finally some positive developments.

As a lot of eir cables that come from the exchange are underground it must make it easier. No tree cutting or pole changing. Must be unusual for a rural exchange to have a lot of the phone lines running underground along the road?

Anyway, I might join the 21st century this year!! Great news.

irelandjoe

Tree clearing in Rural Nenagh by contractor a few months ago said its for FTTH, not seen any movement anyone heard anything ?

Gonzo

MBSnr wrote: »

What's surprising me is that they are cutting trees and hedgerows for areas that are listed as summer 2018 - a year and a half in advance! Headford in Galway is an example. Nearly looks like every 3rd pole on one road is marked with a D for replacement...

I'd have thought they'd be cutting after Aug his year but perhaps they figure that things might progress faster as the rollout goes on and they'd like to be prepared with the pole replacement.

possibly just starting early with a plan to come back and do bits every few months till it's completed. By the time I get connected here it will be a full 12 months since work started.

MBSnr

Deleted User wrote: »

The other point is that it is illegal to cut back hedges during the summer months.

Yeah I know. That's why I mentioned after Aug.