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Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

Tipsy McSwagger

http://kotaku.com/nintendos-next-console-is-code-named-the-nintendo-nx-1691867268

"As proof that Nintendo maintains strong enthusiasm for the dedicated game system business", Iwata adds, "let me confirm that Nintendo is currently developing a dedicated game platform with a brand new concept under the development codename 'NX'."

And...that's it. Iwata says Nintendo will share more information about the new hardware "next year".

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ERG89

iamtony wrote: »

Ps4 was €400 Xbox was €500 with connect(not optional)

The problem the switch has in comparison is that when the PS4 launched I didn't see a far more powerful console with a 3/4 year old library of games on the shelf next to it for a better price plus I don't need to buy memory either. For as much guff as it's getting here I am looking forward South Park, Spiderman, Horizon, Last of Us 2, Persona 5, Red Dead 2 & Mass Effect Andromeda which I'm entitled to be.
To me I'm looking at Zelda & Mario that will imo undoubtedly, definitely deliver but everything else shown is up for debate. Rayman, Skyrim, FIFA show me that this machine won't be running anything too taxing. It's disappointing even having never owned the system that they are leaning on WiiU games at all as Mario Kart should be special as it's one iteration a system & they should have said wait lets make Mario Kart Maker as to me it was a no brainer on a console with a touchscreen. They are trying to pull off a wii follow up hoping we forgot the WiiU, if any company can pull of a console by themselves it's Nintendo but I see warning signs of its recent past they could repeat.

Atari Jaguar

Gizmo55 wrote: »

You think the Wii U is a ****box? You just buy everything?

I'm not sure where to start.

It is? It's comparable in power to an Xbox 360 and has a library of games I can fit on a single shelf. Sorry, but I bought mine day one and it was years before it had a handful of games I was interested in. Yes I do buy all new consoles at launch because I am not pessimistic I was hopeful Nintendo could pull through but it was very clear when I spent little time on the Wii u it was not getting supported properly.

For the poster above you, no I don't think the Switch is dandy, I don't think anything right now bar I'm buying one and then I'll form my opinion. It has a steady lineup of games in the first year and assuming they don't all get delayed or cancelled that's 24 games in the first 9 months, I can deal with that. The Wii u had very little to interest me, splatoon I couldn't be arsed with and aside from the usual Mario games there wasn't enough to support the console. Don't bloody go off on one on me because I don't like Wii U :rolleyes: 13 million worldwide sales, I was one of those sales and it was a huge disappointment.

That_Guy

iamtony wrote: »

Ps4 was €400 Xbox was €500 with connect(not optional)

I know I have left myself open with that but this was at a time when both companies were launching their console side by side.

Ok, it was pricey at the time BUT they both received a healthy price reduction and some good value bundles. I didn't pick my PS4 up until the following year and got it for €329.99 with a couple of games.

Nintendo have had ample time to price their product accordingly to that of their rivals and they have failed miserably in my opinion.

I get that I'll be able to play experiences unlike those on PS4/Xbox One but the cost is far too high to justify a purchase right away.

Staggering details was just confusing and needless. They had the platform. They had my interest and the floor to themselves. A 90 minute presentation would have been the better idea so they can get into the nitty gritty of specs. Then show me the games.

It was a missed opportunity when it could have been absolutely knocked out of the park.

Finishing on Zelda was a good call obviously but my initial excitement faded when they didn't really reveal anything about specs considering the high price tag.

Maybe the Asian market isn't bothered about specs? I dunno.

Wanted to be an early adapter but I think I'll be coming to this late sadly.

Gizmo55

Atari Jaguar wrote: »

No I sold my Wii u because it's a ****box.

But regardless I'd buy the switch. Maybe it's because I'm just that person who buys everything but anyway.

You think the Wii U is a ****box? You just buy everything?

I'm not sure where to start.

[Deleted User]

Atari Jaguar wrote: »

No I sold my Wii u because it's a ****box.

But regardless I'd buy the switch. Maybe it's because I'm just that person who buys everything but anyway.

Wii U Is a "****box" but the Switch Is dandy.

Got ya :rolleyes:

sligeach

"Look, again, I am proud as an executive with Nintendo to say that we look at all of the boards and all of the comments and we really have a good understanding of what our consumers want." - Reggie Fils Aime

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-offers-metroid-mother-3-fans-a-glimmer-of/1100-6446941/

He must be standing under an umbrella and missing the $h1tstorm pouring down all around him.

764dak

Home console first, eh?

Atari Jaguar

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do you have a Wii U though? Do you think it's worth it for Zelda (releasing same day on Wii U) and a Mario Kart port a month later?

If you don't have a Wii U I say go for it but I don't think it's worth the upgrade if you have one.

That's where I'm coming from. If I don't have a Wii U I definitely buy at launch but don't think it's worth it cause I have a Wii U with Mario 3D world, Mario Kart 8, Splatoon and the Zelda game on march 3rd.

No I sold my Wii u because it's a ****box.

But regardless I'd buy the switch. Maybe it's because I'm just that person who buys everything but anyway.

GhostInTheRuins

sligeach wrote: »

https://twitter.com/tomphillipsEG/status/819769078449508352

Good God if that's true. So much for getting slightly inferior PS4/XB1 ports.

I'm reading horrible stuff around the net and Reggie is spilling the usual manure out of his mouth.

That's absolutely desperate if true, but it wouldn't be a complete surprise to me.

Is the switch actually any more powerful than the wii u? Playing mario kart 8 on the wiiu drops down to 30fps when playing multiplayer with three or four people. I read earlier that mario kart 8 deluxe or whatever its called on the switch does the exact same thing, surely if the switch was more powerful than the wii u it could manage higher frame rates for the same three year old game?

[Deleted User]

Atari Jaguar wrote: »

I paid about 440 for a PS4 with killzone in a bundle day one. I think it was that and Knack you had your choice of, 440.

Wii U I paid 420 with ZombiU

Switch I'll pay €400 with Zelda... I'm happy with that personally as both zombiU and Killzone were a bit toss

And while some people feel the need to moan about Nintendo pricing controllers too high, PS3 controllers still cost 50+ euro brand new.

I think it's priced fairly reasonably. Seems people want their cake and to eat it too.

Do you have a Wii U though? Do you think it's worth it for Zelda (releasing same day on Wii U) and a Mario Kart port a month later?

If you don't have a Wii U I say go for it but I don't think it's worth the upgrade if you have one.

That's where I'm coming from. If I don't have a Wii U I definitely buy at launch but don't think it's worth it cause I have a Wii U with Mario 3D world, Mario Kart 8, Splatoon and the Zelda game on march 3rd.

sligeach

https://twitter.com/tomphillipsEG/status/819769078449508352

Good God if that's true. So much for getting slightly inferior PS4/XB1 ports.

I'm reading horrible stuff around the net and Reggie is spilling the usual manure out of his mouth.

Atari Jaguar

CosmicSmash wrote: »

How much was the PS4 and Xbox on launch day and what games did they come with?

I paid about 440 for a PS4 with killzone in a bundle day one. I think it was that and Knack you had your choice of, 440.

Wii U I paid 420 with ZombiU

Switch I'll pay €400 with Zelda... I'm happy with that personally as both zombiU and Killzone were a bit toss

And while some people feel the need to moan about Nintendo pricing controllers too high, PS3 controllers still cost 50+ euro brand new.

I think it's priced fairly reasonably. Seems people want their cake and to eat it too.

CosmicSmash

iamtony wrote: »

Ps4 was €400 Xbox was €500 with connect(not optional) and game way the ps4 kinda came with resogun and something else as a plus game and I'm not sure about the Xbox one I only got one this year(one s) and regret it as it doesn't come close to the ps4 really, but that's another conversation

I was thinking of picking up a ps4 in April, I have a ps3 and 360 but never made the jump to the current offerings. I would agree with you that the ps4 would be the better option of the two. I'm sitting on the fence on the Switch myself, I only watched the launch a couple of hours ago. There are a few game I'd be looking forward to, Zelda in particular, Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade. The thing that concerned me was the range of games for 2017, It was fairly dissapointing but I'm hoping there will be more on offer in 2018. I'll probably pick one up at launch for Zelda alone, it looks amazing. The price of the Switch with Zelda will still be less than 400 euro, this makes it no more expensive than the PS4 of Xbox was at launch.

GhostInTheRuins

The paid online multiplayer is another kick in the balls. At least on the ps4 and Xbox you get some decent games along with it, but Nintendo decided that they'll lend you a 25 year old game for a few weeks and then take it away forcing you to buy it if you want to continue playing it. Their stinginess is unreal.

I have a feeling the switch isn't going to do a whole lot better than the wii u. Fool me once...

sligeach

nairy hipples wrote: »

http://www.gameseek.co.uk/video-gaming-news/2795/gameseek-honouring-%A3198.50-nintendo-switch-pre-or

Seems GameSeek are honouring the £198.50 pre-order offer they launched when the console was rumoured to RRP at £199.99. I'm raging I didn't go through with it, literally had it in my cart and bailed at checkout!

Hindsight is a wonderful thing....

Me too.

iamtony

CosmicSmash wrote: »

That_Guy wrote: »

So we should all accept that we're being fleeced for a console that includes no game in the bundle and accessories that are priced way too high?

Nonsense.

I've an Xbox and a PS4 and I'm lucky to do so but why should I be expected to pay upwards of €400 for a console that includes no game?

With Scorpio due out later in the year, consumers are likely to take that 400 quid and save it for that instead and to be honest, I don't blame them.

I was hyped beyond belief for the Switch and it looked for all the world that Nintendo had learned from their mistakes but having seen that presentation, I can't help but feel deflated.

The price point is all wrong and turned me off instantly. Yeah, Zelda looks great and I'm looking forward to the new Mario but paying that amount of money right now makes no sense to me until they drop the price in a big way.

How much was the PS4 and Xbox on launch day and what games did they come with?

Ps4 was €400 Xbox was €500 with connect(not optional) and game way the ps4 kinda came with resogun and something else as a plus game and I'm not sure about the Xbox one I only got one this year(one s) and regret it as it doesn't come close to the ps4 really, but that's another conversation

iamtony

CosmicSmash wrote: »

That_Guy wrote: »

So we should all accept that we're being fleeced for a console that includes no game in the bundle and accessories that are priced way too high?

Nonsense.

I've an Xbox and a PS4 and I'm lucky to do so but why should I be expected to pay upwards of €400 for a console that includes no game?

With Scorpio due out later in the year, consumers are likely to take that 400 quid and save it for that instead and to be honest, I don't blame them.

I was hyped beyond belief for the Switch and it looked for all the world that Nintendo had learned from their mistakes but having seen that presentation, I can't help but feel deflated.

The price point is all wrong and turned me off instantly. Yeah, Zelda looks great and I'm looking forward to the new Mario but paying that amount of money right now makes no sense to me until they drop the price in a big way.

How much was the PS4 and Xbox on launch day and what games did they come with?

Ps4 was €400 Xbox was €500 with connect(not optional)

CosmicSmash

That_Guy wrote: »

So we should all accept that we're being fleeced for a console that includes no game in the bundle and accessories that are priced way too high?

Nonsense.

I've an Xbox and a PS4 and I'm lucky to do so but why should I be expected to pay upwards of €400 for a console that includes no game?

With Scorpio due out later in the year, consumers are likely to take that 400 quid and save it for that instead and to be honest, I don't blame them.

I was hyped beyond belief for the Switch and it looked for all the world that Nintendo had learned from their mistakes but having seen that presentation, I can't help but feel deflated.

The price point is all wrong and turned me off instantly. Yeah, Zelda looks great and I'm looking forward to the new Mario but paying that amount of money right now makes no sense to me until they drop the price in a big way.

How much was the PS4 and Xbox on launch day and what games did they come with?

iamtony

For all my negativity today I've 2 preordered from Smyths. I just think its a good way to go. The system plus a second controlled will be €400 then the missus will give out cause she cant use it(her or the kids)when I bring it to work, and finally I'll have 2 docks, one in the sitting room and one in the bedroom. Its a win win in my opinion. So there you go folks order 2 switches its the smart thing to do.
Plus I've always wanted to play multiplayer splatoon with the missus and it doesn't do split screen so this is the only way.

Tom Mann Centuria

iamtony wrote: »

Personally I dont really like the look of it anyway.

I'm not a fan of the look of Mario in any kind of "real world" setting if that's what it's going to be.

iamtony

iamtony wrote: »

CastorTroy wrote: »

I'd say there were 3rd parties watching this presentation and the reactions before deciding what they're going to do.

And how many of the announced games will launch on time. They've already said Mario isn't ready for the floor, so we'll see. Nintendo announcing upcomng games and staggering them so they release throughout the year doesn't work if they're all going to be delayed. Were any of the big Wii U games not delayed? This is why they need the 3rd parties. Means instead of "Mario has been delayed so I've nothing to play on my console for another couple months at least" we get "Mario has been delayed but that's okay because I'll be busy play Red Dead 2"

I would actually bet Mario will get delayed till some time in 2018 " please understand"!

Personally I dont really like the look of it anyway.

iamtony

CastorTroy wrote: »

I'd say there were 3rd parties watching this presentation and the reactions before deciding what they're going to do.

And how many of the announced games will launch on time. They've already said Mario isn't ready for the floor, so we'll see. Nintendo announcing upcomng games and staggering them so they release throughout the year doesn't work if they're all going to be delayed. Were any of the big Wii U games not delayed? This is why they need the 3rd parties. Means instead of "Mario has been delayed so I've nothing to play on my console for another couple months at least" we get "Mario has been delayed but that's okay because I'll be busy play Red Dead 2"

I would actually bet Mario will get delayed till some time in 2018 " please understand"!

CastorTroy

I'd say there were 3rd parties watching this presentation and the reactions before deciding what they're going to do.

And how many of the announced games will launch on time. They've already said Mario isn't ready for the floor, so we'll see. Nintendo announcing upcomng games and staggering them so they release throughout the year doesn't work if they're all going to be delayed. Were any of the big Wii U games not delayed? This is why they need the 3rd parties. Means instead of "Mario has been delayed so I've nothing to play on my console for another couple months at least" we get "Mario has been delayed but that's okay because I'll be busy play Red Dead 2"

MilesMorales1

€70 for 1-2 Switch? :eek: That is mad, its a tech demo!

nocoverart

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

Yeah sure you are :rolleyes:

They haven't announced it yet. But 3DS/Wii U both had youtube and Netflix and possibly Skype, so I'd expect it.

I just bought a Wii U a few months ago so knew exactly what I was getting into, and I have to say I bloody love the thing! but nothing would surprise me about Nintendo. The truth of the matter is they don't value the consumer and are a notoriously tight company. I'm sure they'll have your "bread & butter" apps but will they still be supporting this console in a couple of years when third party support is all but abandoned? I'm sceptical.

Retr0gamer

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

No streetpass :O

Really? Bad move as it was insanely popular in japan and also it's popularity at conventions really helped push the 3DS in the west.

Retr0gamer

That_Guy wrote: »

I've an Xbox and a PS4 and I'm lucky to do so but why should I be expected to pay upwards of €400 for a console that includes no game?

As a PC gamer this has been pretty much my PS4 experience. Even if the Switch flops at least I know I'll get some exclusives worth playing. Still play the WiiU more than my PS4.

MilesMorales1

nocoverart wrote: »

I'm quite doubtful they even have plans for more games on this thing, never mind apps.

Yeah sure you are :rolleyes:

They haven't announced it yet. But 3DS/Wii U both had youtube and Netflix and possibly Skype, so I'd expect it.

nairy hipples

http://www.gameseek.co.uk/video-gaming-news/2795/gameseek-honouring-%A3198.50-nintendo-switch-pre-or

Seems GameSeek are honouring the £198.50 pre-order offer they launched when the console was rumoured to RRP at £199.99. I'm raging I didn't go through with it, literally had it in my cart and bailed at checkout!

Hindsight is a wonderful thing....

nocoverart

Grayditch wrote: »

Are there plans for Spotify / Netflix / Skype etc. for the Switch?

I'm quite doubtful they even have plans for more games on this thing, never mind apps.