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El Presidente Trump

Kermit.de.frog

It's happened folks. You are only waking up but it has happened. A genuine unstable idiot has become president of the US.

I will be asleep as you wake. But I will wake too and I will also think of the consequences and wonder is it a dream:eek:

It's not a dream.

It's real.

F**k

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Clea

I still feel as in shock after the news this morning... Not sure what have I expected but somehow not this.

Hande hoche!

The next season of House of cards is going to seem quaint and dated.

ScumLord

This may have been the best result to be honest. I'd hate to think what would have happened if Trump lost, it could have created a real divide where half the country doesn't trust the other half. There were people that would never have accepted Clinton.

I don't like Trump, but now it's time to see what he can achieve, America can try something else (although I really don't believe Trump has the common man at the top of his agenda).

I don't see how he's going to convince Americans to pay American prices for products. As long as China is cheaper consumers will buy Chinese goods over American goods.

I hope Trump proves us all wrong again, the world needs a strong America, hopefully it doesn't isolate itself or we're all in trouble.

Cienciano

tonycascarino wrote: »

I think the establishment and media don't like him because he is a maverick. It is a big FU to them just like Brexit.

TBH, I think the media disliked Hillary too. Best of a bad lot, turd sandwich vs giant douche

BoatMad

The conservative blogs are in melt down

http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/11/09/trumptastrophe/

Sonics2k

Noveight wrote: »

Independent UK running some wildly sensational headlines.

Link.

It's an accurate headline though. He was accused of sexual assault, and Hillary was accused of screwing around with emails.

tonycascarino

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

The difference being the president of this country doesn t matter in any significant way.

I am aware of that but still people here almost voted him in which would have been ludicrous.

HellSquirrel

Noveight wrote: »

Independent UK running some wildly sensational headlines.

Link.

Well...it is an odd thing to pick up on, but it's actually completely accurate. It does not talk about the veracity of either statement, but that is what they were both accused of.

tonycascarino

Noveight wrote: »

Independent UK running some wildly sensational headlines.

Link.

I think the establishment and media don't like him because he is a maverick. It is a big FU to them just like Brexit.

Widdershins

Sonics2k wrote: »

Hang on a second here.

Just because someone didn't want to see Trump voted in doesn't mean they are a special snowflake SJW type.

All it means is that they didn't like his total lack of actual policies, his total lack of political understanding and the simple fact he's a kinda gross bloke.

Get a grip.

Of course he has policies. They're on his website if you want to check! I saw someone say the same thing about clinton. Why does everyone say the exact same thing about the one they dont support.

Noveight

Independent UK running some wildly sensational headlines.

Congratulations, America. You just elected a man accused of sexual assault to avoid a woman accused of mishandling her emails

Link.

CdeC

HellSquirrel

Sonics2k wrote: »

Hang on a second here.

Just because someone didn't want to see Trump voted in doesn't mean they are a special snowflake SJW type.

All it means is that they didn't like his total lack of actual policies, his total lack of political understanding and the simple fact he's a kinda gross bloke.

Get a grip.

I'm afraid we're going to be getting a lot of this sort of gloating.

And yes, I agree. He is an odious man, but it's his policies (or rather lack thereof) that are truly worrying. And the policies he vaguely has are pretty horrifying.

tonycascarino

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I d riot too if that gob****e trump was elected president of where I m living, and I couldn t give two ****s about Clinton.

Our country almost voted in that Sean Gallagher charlatan as our President...There are just as many lemmings here...

AnGaelach

martingriff wrote: »

That $200bn would not be affected by corporation tax (been said in another post). Given ours is 12.5% at the moment I do not think they would move might have other reason for staying here. So if the big companies do not move thats a big hole to fill. So how would they fill it would they take the risk to see if the companies will move back

It will be affected if they decide to repatriate it. The reason they haven't so far is because 35% is astoundingly high and too high for them to consider it worthwhile.

I do agree with you, that reducing it by that much is enough to put a gaping hole in their finances (Corp Tax in 2015 was $344bn, that's over $170bn drop if agreed with). It could be plugged by increased receipts if companies decide to shift profits to the US plus the associated indirect tax receipts (wages, VAT, and so on) but it is a pretty big gap to fill.

So, if the US doesn't reduce tax then nothing changes and we keep ticking along as before. If the US does decrease tax, we can anticipate an increase in investment here and increased flow directly to the US.

So, yeah, I don't believe Trump is going to wreck our economy.

oppenheimer1

Depp wrote: »

he's made a show of himself with his comments and to a lesser extent the country as a whole...really should have kept his mouth shut

to be fair to him thats nothing new, hes been doing it for years

That's a bit unfair on Kenny tbh. Cameron has condemned Trump and Kenny was under a lot of pressure from both the opposition and media to make similar comments. Kenny held his tongue for ages until the question of condemning Trump became a distraction.

martingriff

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

martingriff wrote: »

Calm down people. 1 of 2 things will happen when Trump take office.

1 The house and senate will tell him we can't do x and y. Things will be watered down (illegal immigrants nned to be tackled). They can't and will not drop corporation from 35% to 15% that be fiscal suicide. He will go along with them

2. He will not go along with above and leave and Pence will become president. It is good pc crap will ne gone for a bit

Are we supposed to be calm about Scenario 2?

I would take Trump as President anyday over Mike Pence. Mike Pence makes George Dubya look like the Dalai Lama. This isn't 'PC crap' its naked racism and bigotry.

At least the Donald doesn't believe, or can't remember, most of the shit he says.

You are missing my bit about congress they have real power

Jelle1880

Cienciano wrote: »

Well, here's proof that they don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala%E2%80%93Mexico_border

I've been alluding to this. There is no wall between Mexico and Guatemala, no matter how much they claim there is.

Some Mexicans want one, but that's not the same.

Sonics2k

The Highwayman wrote: »

Hate? What hate?

Ooooh is a poor little SJW is upset the whole world doesn't think the same as them. You better find your safe space and think about trigger warnings.

Hang on a second here.

Just because someone didn't want to see Trump voted in doesn't mean they are a special snowflake SJW type.

All it means is that they didn't like his total lack of actual policies, his total lack of political understanding and the simple fact he's a kinda gross bloke.

Get a grip.

inforfun

kunst nugget wrote: »

Any media I'm looking at is calling it riots…

@AP and Dutch media called them protests.

Eamondomc

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I d riot too if that gob****e trump was elected president of where I m living, and I couldn t give two ****s about Clinton.

It's a mad world, such rancour over Americans' voting for who they want instead of who most of the rest of the world want, maybe we should all get a vote?

HellSquirrel

oik wrote: »

The fact is they do.

No, they do not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala%E2%80%93Mexico_border
https://www.quora.com/Does-Mexico-have-a-wall-on-its-southern-border
http://www.snopes.com/mexico-guatemala-border/

The picture you have seen of it is in the West Bank.

scamalert

well we woken up to the new world,thats what happens when governments ignore people and give them chance to cast their say after decades running countries into poverty.

Now no one likes Trump and fact that he will be on tv for next 4 years daily,is total head wreck but people cast their votes,it wasn't rigged as so many debated but proper election,and given that this will be recorded as worst election as which candidates were running,theres not much else to say.Only time will show if Trump has some cells in his brains or will he continue like he did in debates.

4yrs is short period for any president to make any changes,thus whatever he promised it will soon be evident if he will do any changes to improve general economy or just drive it into the ground,or just join the club and like all presidents just carry on parading around until next term.

TheOven

He didn't get the popular vote, that should make things fun.

Maximus Alexander

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I'm sure a few people might, but they probably don't know that Canada's economy isn't exactly the best at the moment (to put it lightly).

An influx of educated labour might be just the medicine...

Cienciano

oik wrote: »

The fact is they do.

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Got any proof ?

Well, here's proof that they don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala%E2%80%93Mexico_border

inforfun

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I d riot too if that gob****e trump was elected president of where I m living, and I couldn t give two ****s about Clinton.

Yeah, because that will make things a lot better.
What didnt improve after a bunch of idiots set places on fire after all.

/hums Stones song

kunst nugget

inforfun wrote: »

Good losers as the Clinton fans are, they have started to riot.

Of course the good ol' media call it protests.

Any media I'm looking at is calling it riots…

jmayo

Permabear wrote: »

This post had been deleted.

Are you just bragging about your young girlfriend
Shure you are no better than Trump.

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Wanting to build a wall to stop a particular group of people getting into your country is racist, there's no other way to describe it.

WTF.
Those Chinese must have been quare racist so.

BTW does anyone have idea along which motorway the Trump Plaza is going ?

martingriff

AnGaelach wrote: »

martingriff wrote: »

Calm down people. 1 of 2 things will happen when Trump take office.

1 The house and senate will tell him we can't do x and y. Things will be watered down (illegal immigrants nned to be tackled). They can't and will not drop corporation from 35% to 15% that be fiscal suicide. He will go along with them

2. He will not go along with above and leave and Pence will become president. It is good pc crap will ne gone for a bit

It definitely is not. Apple alone has $200bn sitting in accounts outside the US jurisdictions. Which do you think is better, 15% of $200bn or 35% of nothing?

That $200bn would not be affected by corporation tax (been said in another post). Given ours is 12.5% at the moment I do not think they would move might have other reason for staying here. So if the big companies do not move thats a big hole to fill. So how would they fill it would they take the risk to see if the companies will move back