Speedwell wrote: » Tarot. One of my friends runs the Tarot Meetup in Houston. He is a professional social worker.
5starpool wrote: » Unfortunately it is as impossible to prove there is no god as it is to prove there is a god. I resent the fact that religion plays a big part in the education and legislation in this country, and if that could be entirely separated then I would not care what people want to believe and spend their time doing. Live and let live is what I'm generally about, but given that it's nearly impossible to avoid the effects of something I have zero belief in is really annoying. Hopefully the influence will wane over the coming years and there will be a proper separation of religion and state.
Lt Dan wrote: » Yer pal Katherine Zappone is one of the US/Ireland's most imminent Theolgists . They study more than bible reading there in those universities
Depp wrote: » depends on the hospital, only example i know of off hand is the mater which gets a good chunk of funding from the catholic church
Orion wrote: » No. But religious orders should keep to themselves and keep the hell out of our schools, hospitals and legislation.
glued wrote: » Do you have any evidence that backs that up? I'm genuinely interested as I was told the opposite before.
Two Tone wrote: » But what relevance do religious orders have to state hospitals? I mean, if someone would like a priest to visit them when they are on their deathbed, fair enough. Or if a hospital has a chapel/chaplain - this would be important to religious people who are ill. But I don't see why there is a need for religious orders to be involved in the actual running of a hospital?
PucaMama wrote: » Because they started the hospital in the first place? Like all the schools they started?
jones 19 wrote: » Maybe ban indoctrinated baby's and children into that nonsense hocus Pocus and then see how believable they find it later on in life. Banning it would strengthen the weirdos and backfire on us. I find religious orders and beliefs outrageous and an insult to our earth and what is REAL etc. For one Catholics hail a God who's Shepards are famous for raping children and then protects the rapist. C, mon! What God allows that misery. Not to mind wars, disease and general misery and Citroen cars......
Two Tone wrote: » Her partner Ann Louise Gilligan used to be a nun.
Lt Dan wrote: » And, they all turned out well, so........... They may still believe in god. Not everyone is a religious nut that is intolerant of others.
Depp wrote: » You cant prove god is not real the same as i cant prove he is, believe what you want to believe but do it privately and dont try force it on others
Lt Dan wrote: » Who is forcing it on you, in Ireland? The world does not revolve around you. Whatever religious symbols etc that are still around Ireland today, eg Bells at noon and at 6pm, there is still sufficiently enough people who are happy that they are there Ruairi Quinn tried to change the schools, and offered people to sign up. Guess what? There was little demand for it and the government were utterly incapable of providing alternatives . Kids are not forced to stay in class if religious instructions are on. Most of those classes deal with all religions and not the dogmatic Catholic Stuff we learned 20 years or more . Schools now demand tolerance of people from all backgrounds. The politically correct now rules the media and society often to extremes. Blaming no sale of alcohol on religion is a cop out since other Catholic Nations have no issue with it The Religious Hierarchy bar some idiots (Bishop of Elphin) were more or less silent during the Children's referendum and the gay marriage debates. The Pope was more interested in not offending or annoying anyone and said little (and rightly so) Who are you hanging around with?
hidinginthebush wrote: » Trying to ban all the Jews about 60 years ago went down a treat :rolleyes: Let people believe whatever the feic they want IMO. Religion is like a penis, once you're not shoving yours down my throat you can do what you want with it.
jones 19 wrote: » If people didn't push it on their kids we would have this problem of blind faith. And religion has been pushed on millions of people for thousands of years and only maybe when the church has lost its grip (enforcement of fear) people start to question the nonsense. Religion I think is dying, but far too late for my liking. As for proving God doesn't exist, I don't have to. I know he doesn't. You sound like someone who had religion forced upon them . Tough luck Depp. Maybe the next Neverending life.
Depp wrote: » as a matter of fact it wasnt forced on me when I was younger, my father has been a stout agnostic since childhood so I grew up in a fairly non-religeous household and evolved my beliefs on my own, as I've said anyone has the right to believe or not believe in what they want but noone has the right to tell me not to believe in a higher power and quite frankly an outlook like that seems very bleak to me, funny the way the stereotypical 'hypocritical atheist' keeps popping up its head, ranting and raving about how the church was forced on them and trying to force their beliefs(or lack thereof) onto others, guess stereotypes must have something to em after all, huh?
Depp wrote: » funny the way the stereotypical 'hypocritical atheist' keeps popping up its head, ranting and raving about how the church was forced on them and trying to force their beliefs(or lack thereof) onto others, guess stereotypes must have something to em after all, huh?
Depp wrote: » I'm happy they're still there personally, I was taking umbridge to the poster basically calling out people with a belief as stupid, everyone has the right to believe or not believe in something but you dont have the right to call me stupid because I do
eviltwin wrote: » Isn't that the way it should be, that people are able to grow up with an open mind to find the right road for them ?
jones 19 wrote: » Dear Depp, as Godd as my judge and not you, I never called you stupid ,basically. Maybe it was in your head. Or maybe it was the flying spaghetti monster who said it.
KingBrian2 wrote: » It would not be possible to ban religion it would only go to the side streets and back alley's be hidden from view so you would still have lots of religious people only they would not be visible.
Depp wrote: » No, it was you saying how it was 'nonsense hocus pocus' and that religious belief was 'outrageous' and 'an insult to earth', fairly intollerant and dare I say bigoted thing to say no? you can understand how someone could find that insulting no?
