dar100 wrote: » If it's a two year level 9 masters what is your issue op?
cruizer101 wrote: » Professional Master of Education, I think its a masters because its a two year course now as opposed to the old 1 year HDip
hupskip wrote: » I just don't think a Two Year PME carries the same weight as a Masters completed by somebody who has already done a Bachelor of Education degree.
afkasurfjunkie wrote: » Your undergrad degree is in education and your masters is an m.ed I imagine. This person has done their undergrad degree in another area. Arts or business or science or whatever and now they are undertaking a 2 year course to obtain a teaching qualification. By the time they are finished they will have 6 years of courses behind them. Also most primary teachers until recently only had a 3 year degree. Which carries more weight is up to an interview panel to decide.
hupskip wrote: » Some people have done a 4 year Arts Degree for example, then an 18 months Hdip to get their teaching qualification and then a 2 year Masters in Education. This type of Masters is far more challenging and beneficial in my eyes.
dar100 wrote: » A masters is a masters!! The fact that someone may or may not have done a hdip before have does not make it anyway more challenging or exclusive
hupskip wrote: » Its essentially the same as the previous hDip only a few months extra and decide to call it a Masters
dar100 wrote: » It's a level 9 I presume? Therefore it is at a higher level and again I'd assume a large thesis?
hupskip wrote: » No they do a 10,000 word Research Project. In my Masters of Education I did a 20,000 word thesis.
dar100 wrote: » So you're feeling screwed over, basically? 😊
gctest50 wrote: » Well, they do now
Stroke Politics wrote: » It was my understanding that a Masters is a level 10 qualification. The postgrad diploma that was completed in my day is different from the graduate diploma, and was a level 9 qualification. So when I did the one year grad dip in speciial ed at Saint pats, we were told that it was a level 10 qualification, which could be topped up to Masters level after a further year study and assignment.
dar100 wrote: » That's wrong, a post grad dip and masters is level 9. A PhD is level 10!! Graduate dip is usually level 8
hupskip wrote: » PhD is level 10 you're right, don't see myself making that step just yet :P
hupskip wrote: » On paper ya, I just feel it's not right and because of this many graduates of the PME will feel they have their Masters and will be less inclined to take up another one down the line, where they will get a far better insight into the world of education.
PawneeRanger wrote: » I have to say, I really hope you didn't share this opinion with the student that was on placement... The PME is a way for those with a non-education primary degree to gain an initial teaching qualification at masters level. The M.Ed is designed for those are already teaching which is why you can specialise. How exactly do you know how "many graduates" of the PME will feel? Or what the M.Ed uptake will be further down the line? They need to get into the workforce and decide if they want to specialise in a certain area before they consider an M.Ed. Tbh, you just come across as bitter.
hupskip wrote: » Anyway I just hope Principal's don't think that graduates of the PME will have the same experience as somebody with a separate Teaching Qualification and follow up Masters of Education done.
muttnjeff wrote: » In my experience as you are both fully qualified teachers-the principal will take the one who gets on best with the children and with the rest of the staff. I know who my money's on!
hupskip wrote: » I have a permanent job
