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Windows Phone 7 Launch Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    downloading mango now ;] exiting stuff ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    God ita all might fast. Transitions are all smooth and fast while keeping animations :) I'm loving it so far


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭Charlie Haughy


    downloading mango now ;] exiting stuff ;)
    Where?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭AntiVirus


    Where?

    head over to xda, everything you need to know is there. It's where all the Mobile guru's hang out.

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=605


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,433 ✭✭✭markpb


    AntiVirus wrote: »
    EDIT: In other words you won't need the app any more, facebook links in extremely well. I just need to get the chat working

    Only until Facebook add some new feature that isn't built into the OS and there's a one year wait for the next WP7 release. I like what they've done / are doing but I'd prefer if they did it through hooks that companies could build around instead of building it into the OS.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭AntiVirus


    markpb wrote: »
    Only until Facebook add some new feature that isn't built into the OS and there's a one year wait for the next WP7 release. I like what they've done / are doing but


    I'm not talking about facebook the website, I'm comparing it to the Facebook app that exits in the market place now. There's plenty of things that you can't do. When facebook brings out their video chat which they're working on with skype at the moment, that'll be another update needed.

    I don't know where you're going with a year wait? MS have already done 2 updates so far this year with a HUGE os update coming in september.
    markpb wrote: »
    I'd prefer if they did it through hooks that companies could build around instead of building it into the OS.

    I'm not following you here, what exactly do you mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,433 ✭✭✭markpb


    AntiVirus wrote: »
    I'm not talking about facebook the website, I'm comparing it to the Facebook app that exits in the market place now.

    So am I. As soon as MS decided to move functionality offered by other companies into the OS, they limited the speed at which users can gain the user of new functionality. When Facebook Places was launched, it couldn't be added to the native app without an OS upgrade so a third party app was required. Ditto for Facebook chat.
    I don't know where you're going with a year wait? MS have already done 2 updates so far this year with a HUGE os update coming in september.

    It's well documented that MS plan to follow the Apple plan and have one major release per year.
    I'm not following you here, what exactly do you mean?

    I love the integration of Facebook into the People Hub but there are two problems
    - Only MS can add new features to this and that means an OS upgrade
    - No other company can tie into it which means that MS control access to it (and, once again, new integrations like Twitter require an OS upgrade).

    Exposing hooks which allow third party developers to extend the functionality of hubs would be a better solution IMHO. It would make the OS more integrated and seamless but without making MS the only ones able to update it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭AntiVirus


    markpb wrote: »
    So am I. As soon as MS decided to move functionality offered by other companies into the OS, they limited the speed at which users can gain the user of new functionality. When Facebook Places was launched, it couldn't be added to the native app without an OS upgrade so a third party app was required. Ditto for Facebook chat..

    In other words the App will need an update as well as the OS will need an update. I'm comparing the App as of now to Mango as of now

    markpb wrote: »
    It's well documented that MS plan to follow the Apple plan and have one major release per year.

    The only thing comfirm is one major update per year, what we already know is there is more than one update done per year.

    markpb wrote: »
    I love the integration of Facebook into the People Hub but there are two problems
    - Only MS can add new features to this and that means an OS upgrade
    - No other company can tie into it which means that MS control access to it (and, once again, new integrations like Twitter require an OS upgrade).

    Exposing hooks which allow third party developers to extend the functionality of hubs would be a better solution IMHO. It would make the OS more integrated and seamless but without making MS the only ones able to update it.

    Not a chance in hell of that happening, I'd much rather this is left to MS to handle. This is something other companies have trid to do with Android and they fall far behind what MS has done. I don't want them messing it up and slowing down the OS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,433 ✭✭✭markpb


    AntiVirus wrote: »
    The only thing comfirm is one major update per year, what we already know is there is more than one update done per year.

    We got one small update (which, by all accounts, was ready before the phone was launched the RTM deadline) and one security certificate update. It's hardly a demonstration of a quick turnaround inside the dev team but I agree that Mango will add a lot of badly needed features.
    Not a chance in hell of that happening, I'd much rather this is left to MS to handle. This is something other companies have trid to do with Android and they fall far behind what MS has done. I don't want them messing it up and slowing down the OS

    It's technically possible to do both. The core of most operating systems is the ability of third party apps to extend the functionality. Apple went for almost zero integration and Microsoft offer tight integration but only at their time-frame. This means that anytime a new site/feature is launched, it won't be available in the core until that's updated which, rightly, doesn't happen quickly on a mobile OS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,004 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭AntiVirus


    This post has been deleted.

    It refreshes fine on mine, maybe try deleting the bookmark and adding it again. could be a problem with the bookmark.

    If its a bug with your phone the problem should happen on other websites not just the boards.ie site. So test with some other sites and see if you get the same results.

    EDIT: Just seen your using the mobile version, I was refering to the desktop version on the phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,433 ✭✭✭markpb


    This post has been deleted.

    Same thing happens me but without any bookmarks, whenever I go to m.boards.ie/?filer=subbed, I get the old copy of the page too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Odaise Gaelach


    I got Mango from the Microsoft Connect invite. Damn No Disclosure Agreement, I feel a bit stupid for agreeing to it now. :pac:

    I love some of the new app features that we can use; they're also quite easy to code up and the MSDN website has lots of great examples. I'm gonna make good use of them. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭T-b0n3


    Now that I was able to get the phone properly unlocked and get touchexperience working and the flashlight installed, is there any other good apps people can recommend? Or even some where I can look at the 3rd party apps that are out there?

    Sorry new to all of this. Thanks.

    Also working on getting mango installed which I'm looking forward to, it looks very good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭AntiVirus


    T-b0n3 wrote: »
    Now that I was able to get the phone properly unlocked and get touchexperience working and the flashlight installed, is there any other good apps people can recommend? Or even some where I can look at the 3rd party apps that are out there?

    Sorry new to all of this. Thanks.

    Also working on getting mango installed which I'm looking forward to, it looks very good.

    You might be interested in this:

    http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2011/07/04/play-pokemon-zelda-on-windows-phone-using-warios-jewels-video.html

    There's tons of stuff over on XDA that you could install

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=605

    The best section for you to look at is probably the Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games , Windows Phone 7 Software Development and then Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking.

    Have a look and a read on there, you'll find help on everything you need to know :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    I got Mango from the Microsoft Connect invite. Damn No Disclosure Agreement, I feel a bit stupid for agreeing to it now. :pac:


    http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-backtracks-on-windows-phone-mango-developer-nda-lock-down/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Odaise Gaelach


    FREEDOM!

    Yes, Mango is really great, though there are a few things that irk me (the black sliders when using light backgrounds, how the songs appear in Music+Videos, the search button being exclusively dedicated to Bing - horrible choice in my opinion).

    However, the pros really outweight the cons and it's a great update. I thought all the animated tiles would become distracting, but they haven't bothered me as much as I thought they would. The Battery Saver is really welcome and they've fixed the issue whereby app icons with transparency will be shaded in your phone's chosen colour, instead of the black that it defaulted to before.

    Yep, I'm really loving Mango. :D


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Anyone on 3 having issues recieving MMS messages on the LG optimus 7?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭AntiVirus


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Anyone on 3 having issues recieving MMS messages on the LG optimus 7?

    Oddly enough my mate sent me one from Spain about 10mins ago, most likely of a beer and a pool, it just says "Get Media Content Now" but doesn't do anything. Anyway I found the solution to the problem in the link below.

    The person having the problem is using a HD7 but the solution will only work on the LG Optimus 7 as the other phones don't have the MGF menu :D

    http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1689588-HD7-MMS-settings-on-Wind-Mobile


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    AntiVirus wrote: »
    Use the MFG tool to edit this registry setting:

    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main]
    “Start Page”=”http://www.google.ie/”

    I'm able to get into edit registry but from there I wouldn't know what to type into which fields any chance you could elaborate?


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    AntiVirus wrote: »
    Oddly enough my mate sent me one from Spain about 10mins ago, most likely of a beer and a pool, it just says "Get Media Content Now" but doesn't do anything. Anyway I found the solution to the problem in the link below.

    The person having the problem is using a HD7 but the solution will only work on the LG Optimus 7 as the other phones don't have the MGF menu :D

    http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1689588-HD7-MMS-settings-on-Wind-Mobile

    I got to that thread earlier while trying to figure this out - I think I'm just dumb I can't see a solution there - what I've tried was getting into the engineer menu and editing the network settings and selecting the prov_3IR_IE option but to no avail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭AntiVirus


    mayordenis wrote: »
    I'm able to get into edit registry but from there I wouldn't know what to type into which fields any chance you could elaborate?


    1 Select ROOT_PATH
    HKEY_CURRENT_USER

    2 Input SUB_PATH
    \Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main

    3 Input Key and select data type (Data type should be STRING)
    Start Page

    4 Input Data
    http://www.google.ie/


    That should do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭AntiVirus


    mayordenis wrote: »
    I got to that thread earlier while trying to figure this out - I think I'm just dumb I can't see a solution there - what I've tried was getting into the engineer menu and editing the network settings and selecting the prov_3IR_IE option but to no avail.

    What happens when you click on the Get Media Now Link? Also check with 3 that its enabled.

    Maybe try this as well
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024448


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,277 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    Its always been like that with m.boards.ie . I just hit the refresh button and works grand. Its the only website that caches from a bookmark for me. Facebooook and twitter works fine though :)

    Either way on mango we get voice recognition with Irish account and Irish locale, no local search, no navigation. You can get navigation by setting phone locale to US and keep using an Irish account :)

    one thing I'm missing from NODO is the quick shortcuts to tabs and bookmars. You have to touch the 3 dots at the bottom for the links to them to come up :(

    though having an address bar in landscape is a long waited one for me :) browser is great as well :)

    everything else is great so far :) I'm happy I went for WP at this stage :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Odaise Gaelach


    The browser is fantastic. Everything seems clearer (or is that me?) and it's definitely quicker.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    AntiVirus wrote: »
    What happens when you click on the Get Media Now Link? Also check with 3 that its enabled.

    Maybe try this as well
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024448

    It's has the link in the message saying "Get media content now" when I click on it, it beeps, and then again says "Get media content now".

    Rang 3 - who said that my profile should be ok to recieve MMS messages.

    Also tried the above to no avail.

    The Internet Explorer part worked perfect though so thanks for that :D

    Edit - Just tried sending some too - definately can't send or recieve MMS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭AntiVirus


    mayordenis wrote: »
    It's has the link in the message saying "Get media content now" when I click on it, it beeps, and then again says "Get media content now".

    Rang 3 - who said that my profile should be ok to recieve MMS messages.

    Also tried the above to no avail.

    The Internet Explorer part worked perfect though so thanks for that :D

    Edit - Just tried sending some too - definately can't send or recieve MMS

    I'll check it out tomorrow


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    AntiVirus wrote: »
    I'll check it out tomorrow

    such a legend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,004 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


    This post has been deleted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭AntiVirus


    mayordenis wrote: »
    It's has the link in the message saying "Get media content now" when I click on it, it beeps, and then again says "Get media content now".

    Rang 3 - who said that my profile should be ok to recieve MMS messages.

    Also tried the above to no avail.

    The Internet Explorer part worked perfect though so thanks for that :D

    Edit - Just tried sending some too - definately can't send or recieve MMS

    Ok I've just finised going through the instructions I posted earlier and i think it MMS maybe working now. The only thing different was I took the sim card out and then put it back in and rebooted. Before when I use to click the Get Media content it would just keep display the same Get Media content message.

    Now I clicked on the get media content message and it tries to get the content but its telling me that the content is gone now which is correct.

    The message I'm clicking on is one that was sent to me about 10 days ago so I'm guessing it is gone now. Unfortunatly the other MMS message I got earlier today has been deleted by some one :o

    I'll get one of the lads to send me a MMS tomorrow and see what happens. I report back then.


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